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From: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>
Cc: Robert White <rwhite@pobox.com>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again (further tests, as close as I dare, current idea)
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:25:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6556726.TrNmnHvhLa@merkaba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2574221.IMnk8vTl9R@merkaba>

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Am Sonntag, 28. Dezember 2014, 14:56:21 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Am Sonntag, 28. Dezember 2014, 14:40:32 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> > Am Sonntag, 28. Dezember 2014, 14:00:19 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> > > Am Samstag, 27. Dezember 2014, 14:55:58 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> > > > Summarized at
> > > > 
> > > > Bug 90401 - btrfs kworker thread uses up 100% of a Sandybridge core for minutes on random write into big file
> > > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90401
> > > > 
> > > > see below. This is reproducable with fio, no need for Windows XP in
> > > > Virtualbox for reproducing the issue. Next I will try to reproduce with
> > > > a freshly creating filesystem.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Am Samstag, 27. Dezember 2014, 09:30:43 schrieb Hugo Mills:
> > > > > On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 10:01:17AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > > > > Am Freitag, 26. Dezember 2014, 14:48:38 schrieb Robert White:
> > > > > > > On 12/26/2014 05:37 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > First: Have a merry christmas and enjoy a quiet time in these days.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Second: At a time you feel like it, here is a little rant, but also a
> > > > > > > > bug
> > > > > > > > report:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I have this on 3.18 kernel on Debian Sid with BTRFS Dual SSD RAID with
> > > > > > > > space_cache, skinny meta data extents – are these a problem? – and
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > compress=lzo:
> > > > > > > (there is no known problem with skinny metadata, it's actually more
> > > > > > > efficient than the older format. There has been some anecdotes about
> > > > > > > mixing the skinny and fat metadata but nothing has ever been
> > > > > > > demonstrated problematic.)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > merkaba:~> btrfs fi sh /home
> > > > > > > > Label: 'home'  uuid: b96c4f72-0523-45ac-a401-f7be73dd624a
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >          Total devices 2 FS bytes used 144.41GiB
> > > > > > > >          devid    1 size 160.00GiB used 160.00GiB path
> > > > > > > >          /dev/mapper/msata-home
> > > > > > > >          devid    2 size 160.00GiB used 160.00GiB path
> > > > > > > >          /dev/mapper/sata-home
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Btrfs v3.17
> > > > > > > > merkaba:~> btrfs fi df /home
> > > > > > > > Data, RAID1: total=154.97GiB, used=141.12GiB
> > > > > > > > System, RAID1: total=32.00MiB, used=48.00KiB
> > > > > > > > Metadata, RAID1: total=5.00GiB, used=3.29GiB
> > > > > > > > GlobalReserve, single: total=512.00MiB, used=0.00B
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This filesystem, at the allocation level, is "very full" (see below).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > And I had hangs with BTRFS again. This time as I wanted to install tax
> > > > > > > > return software in Virtualbox´d Windows XP VM (which I use once a year
> > > > > > > > cause I know no tax return software for Linux which would be suitable
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > Germany and I frankly don´t care about the end of security cause all
> > > > > > > > surfing and other network access I will do from the Linux box and I
> > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > run the VM behind a firewall).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > And thus I try the balance dance again:
> > > > > > > ITEM: Balance... it doesn't do what you think it does... 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "Balancing" is something you should almost never need to do. It is only
> > > > > > > for cases of changing geometry (adding disks, switching RAID levels,
> > > > > > > etc.) of for cases when you've radically changed allocation behaviors
> > > > > > > (like you decided to remove all your VM's or you've decided to remove a
> > > > > > > mail spool directory full of thousands of tiny files).
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > People run balance all the time because they think they should. They are
> > > > > > > _usually_ incorrect in that belief.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I only see the lockups of BTRFS is the trees *occupy* all space on the
> > > > > > device.
> > > > >    No, "the trees" occupy 3.29 GiB of your 5 GiB of mirrored metadata
> > > > > space. What's more, balance does *not* balance the metadata trees. The
> > > > > remaining space -- 154.97 GiB -- is unstructured storage for file
> > > > > data, and you have some 13 GiB of that available for use.
> > > > > 
> > > > >    Now, since you're seeing lockups when the space on your disks is
> > > > > all allocated I'd say that's a bug. However, you're the *only* person
> > > > > who's reported this as a regular occurrence. Does this happen with all
> > > > > filesystems you have, or just this one?
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I *never* so far saw it lockup if there is still space BTRFS can allocate
> > > > > > from to *extend* a tree.
> > > > > 
> > > > >    It's not a tree. It's simply space allocation. It's not even space
> > > > > *usage* you're talking about here -- it's just allocation (i.e. the FS
> > > > > saying "I'm going to use this piece of disk for this purpose").
> > > > > 
> > > > > > This may be a bug, but this is what I see.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And no amount of "you should not balance a BTRFS" will make that
> > > > > > perception go away.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > See, I see the sun coming out on a morning and you tell me "no, it
> > > > > > doesn´t". Simply that is not going to match my perception.
> > > > > 
> > > > >    Duncan's assertion is correct in its detail. Looking at your space
> > > > 
> > > > Robert's 
> > > > 
> > > > > usage, I would not suggest that running a balance is something you
> > > > > need to do. Now, since you have these lockups that seem quite
> > > > > repeatable, there's probably a lurking bug in there, but hacking
> > > > > around with balance every time you hit it isn't going to get the
> > > > > problem solved properly.
> > > > > 
> > > > >    I think I would suggest the following:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  - make sure you have some way of logging your dmesg permanently (use
> > > > >    a different filesystem for /var/log, or a serial console, or a
> > > > >    netconsole)
> > > > > 
> > > > >  - when the lockup happens, hit Alt-SysRq-t a few times
> > > > > 
> > > > >  - send the dmesg output here, or post to bugzilla.kernel.org
> > > > > 
> > > > >    That's probably going to give enough information to the developers
> > > > > to work out where the lockup is happening, and is clearly the way
> > > > > forward here.
> > > > 
> > > > And I got it reproduced. *Perfectly* reproduced, I´d say.
> > > > 
> > > > But let me run the whole story:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) I downsized my /home BTRFS from dual 170 GiB to dual 160 GiB again.
> > > 
> > > [… story of trying to reproduce with Windows XP defragmenting which was
> > > unsuccessful as BTRFS still had free device space to allocate new chunks
> > > from …]
> > > 
> > > > But finally I got to:
> > > > 
> > > > merkaba:~> date; btrfs fi sh /home ; btrfs fi df /home
> > > > Sa 27. Dez 13:26:39 CET 2014
> > > > Label: 'home'  uuid: [some UUID]
> > > >         Total devices 2 FS bytes used 152.83GiB
> > > >         devid    1 size 160.00GiB used 160.00GiB path /dev/mapper/msata-home
> > > >         devid    2 size 160.00GiB used 160.00GiB path /dev/mapper/sata-home
> > > > 
> > > > Btrfs v3.17
> > > > Data, RAID1: total=154.97GiB, used=149.58GiB
> > > > System, RAID1: total=32.00MiB, used=48.00KiB
> > > > Metadata, RAID1: total=5.00GiB, used=3.26GiB
> > > > GlobalReserve, single: total=512.00MiB, used=0.00B
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So I did, if Virtualbox can write randomly in a file, I can too.
> > > > 
> > > > So I did:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > martin@merkaba:~> cat ssd-test.fio 
> > > > [global]
> > > > bs=4k
> > > > #ioengine=libaio
> > > > #iodepth=4
> > > > size=4g
> > > > #direct=1
> > > > runtime=120
> > > > filename=ssd.test.file
> > > > 
> > > > [seq-write]
> > > > rw=write
> > > > stonewall
> > > > 
> > > > [rand-write]
> > > > rw=randwrite
> > > > stonewall
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > And got:
> > > > 
> > > > ATOP - merkaba                          2014/12/27  13:41:02                          -----------                           10s elapsed
> > > > PRC |  sys   10.14s |  user   0.38s |  #proc    332  | #trun      2  |  #tslpi   548 |  #tslpu     0 |  #zombie    0  | no  procacct  |
> > > > CPU |  sys     102% |  user      4% |  irq       0%  | idle    295%  |  wait      0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.10GHz  | curscal  96%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys      76% |  user      0% |  irq       0%  | idle     24%  |  cpu001 w  0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.20GHz  | curscal  99%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys      24% |  user      1% |  irq       0%  | idle     75%  |  cpu000 w  0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.19GHz  | curscal  99%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys       1% |  user      1% |  irq       0%  | idle     98%  |  cpu002 w  0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.00GHz  | curscal  93%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys       1% |  user      1% |  irq       0%  | idle     98%  |  cpu003 w  0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.00GHz  | curscal  93%  |
> > > > CPL |  avg1    0.82 |  avg5    0.78 |  avg15   0.99  |               |  csw     6233 |  intr   12023 |                | numcpu     4  |
> > > > MEM |  tot    15.5G |  free    4.0G |  cache   9.7G  | buff    0.0M  |  slab  333.1M |  shmem 206.6M |  vmbal   0.0M  | hptot   0.0M  |
> > > > SWP |  tot    12.0G |  free   11.7G |                |               |               |               |  vmcom   3.4G  | vmlim  19.7G  |
> > > > LVM |     sata-home |  busy      0% |  read       8  | write      0  |  KiB/w      0 |  MBr/s   0.00 |  MBw/s   0.00  | avio 0.12 ms  |
> > > > DSK |           sda |  busy      0% |  read       8  | write      0  |  KiB/w      0 |  MBr/s   0.00 |  MBw/s   0.00  | avio 0.12 ms  |
> > > > NET |  transport    |  tcpi      16 |  tcpo      16  | udpi       0  |  udpo       0 |  tcpao      1 |  tcppo      1  | tcprs      0  |
> > > > NET |  network      |  ipi       16 |  ipo       16  | ipfrw      0  |  deliv     16 |               |  icmpi      0  | icmpo      0  |
> > > > NET |  lo      ---- |  pcki      16 |  pcko      16  | si    2 Kbps  |  so    2 Kbps |  erri       0 |  erro       0  | drpo       0  |
> > > > 
> > > >   PID    TID   RUID      EUID        THR  SYSCPU   USRCPU   VGROW    RGROW   RDDSK    WRDSK  ST   EXC  S   CPUNR   CPU   CMD        1/2
> > > > 18079      -   martin    martin        2   9.99s    0.00s      0K       0K      0K      16K  --     -  R       1  100%   fio
> > > >  4746      -   martin    martin        2   0.01s    0.14s      0K       0K      0K       0K  --     -  S       2    2%   konsole
> > > >  3291      -   martin    martin        4   0.01s    0.11s      0K       0K      0K       0K  --     -  S       0    1%   plasma-desktop
> > > >  1488      -   root      root          1   0.03s    0.04s      0K       0K      0K       0K  --     -  S       0    1%   Xorg
> > > > 10036      -   root      root          1   0.04s    0.02s      0K       0K      0K       0K  --     -  R       2    1%   atop
> > > > 
> > > > while fio was just *laying* out the 4 GiB file. Yes, thats 100% system CPU
> > > > for 10 seconds while allocatiing a 4 GiB file on a filesystem like:
> > > > 
> > > > martin@merkaba:~> LANG=C df -hT /home
> > > > Filesystem             Type   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > > > /dev/mapper/msata-home btrfs  170G  156G   17G  91% /home
> > > > 
> > > > where a 4 GiB file should easily fit, no? (And this output is with the 4
> > > > GiB file. So it was even 4 GiB more free before.)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > But it gets even more visible:
> > > > 
> > > > martin@merkaba:~> fio ssd-test.fio
> > > > seq-write: (g=0): rw=write, bs=4K-4K/4K-4K/4K-4K, ioengine=sync, iodepth=1
> > > > rand-write: (g=1): rw=randwrite, bs=4K-4K/4K-4K/4K-4K, ioengine=sync, iodepth=1
> > > > fio-2.1.11
> > > > Starting 2 processes
> > > > Jobs: 1 (f=1): [_(1),w(1)] [19.3% done] [0KB/0KB/0KB /s] [0/0/0 iops] [eta 01m:57s]       
> > > > 0$ zsh  1$ zsh  2$ zsh  3-$ zsh  4$ zsh  5$* zsh                                   
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > yes, thats 0 IOPS.
> > > > 
> > > > 0 IOPS and in zero IOPS. For minutes.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > And here is why:
> > > > 
> > > > ATOP - merkaba                          2014/12/27  13:46:52                          -----------                           10s elapsed
> > > > PRC |  sys   10.77s |  user   0.31s |  #proc    334  | #trun      2  |  #tslpi   548 |  #tslpu     3 |  #zombie    0  | no  procacct  |
> > > > CPU |  sys     108% |  user      3% |  irq       0%  | idle    286%  |  wait      2% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.08GHz  | curscal  96%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys      72% |  user      1% |  irq       0%  | idle     28%  |  cpu000 w  0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.00GHz  | curscal  93%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys      19% |  user      0% |  irq       0%  | idle     81%  |  cpu001 w  0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.00GHz  | curscal  93%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys      11% |  user      1% |  irq       0%  | idle     87%  |  cpu003 w  1% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.19GHz  | curscal  99%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys       6% |  user      1% |  irq       0%  | idle     91%  |  cpu002 w  1% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.11GHz  | curscal  97%  |
> > > > CPL |  avg1    2.78 |  avg5    1.34 |  avg15   1.12  |               |  csw    50192 |  intr   32379 |                | numcpu     4  |
> > > > MEM |  tot    15.5G |  free    5.0G |  cache   8.7G  | buff    0.0M  |  slab  332.6M |  shmem 207.2M |  vmbal   0.0M  | hptot   0.0M  |
> > > > SWP |  tot    12.0G |  free   11.7G |                |               |               |               |  vmcom   3.4G  | vmlim  19.7G  |
> > > > LVM |     sata-home |  busy      5% |  read     160  | write  11177  |  KiB/w      3 |  MBr/s   0.06 |  MBw/s   4.36  | avio 0.05 ms  |
> > > > LVM |    msata-home |  busy      4% |  read      28  | write  11177  |  KiB/w      3 |  MBr/s   0.01 |  MBw/s   4.36  | avio 0.04 ms  |
> > > > LVM |   sata-debian |  busy      0% |  read       0  | write    844  |  KiB/w      4 |  MBr/s   0.00 |  MBw/s   0.33  | avio 0.02 ms  |
> > > > LVM |  msata-debian |  busy      0% |  read       0  | write    844  |  KiB/w      4 |  MBr/s   0.00 |  MBw/s   0.33  | avio 0.02 ms  |
> > > > DSK |           sda |  busy      5% |  read     160  | write  10200  |  KiB/w      4 |  MBr/s   0.06 |  MBw/s   4.69  | avio 0.05 ms  |
> > > > DSK |           sdb |  busy      4% |  read      28  | write  10558  |  KiB/w      4 |  MBr/s   0.01 |  MBw/s   4.69  | avio 0.04 ms  |
> > > > NET |  transport    |  tcpi      35 |  tcpo      33  | udpi       3  |  udpo       3 |  tcpao      2 |  tcppo      1  | tcprs      0  |
> > > > NET |  network      |  ipi       38 |  ipo       36  | ipfrw      0  |  deliv     38 |               |  icmpi      0  | icmpo      0  |
> > > > NET |  eth0      0% |  pcki      22 |  pcko      20  | si    9 Kbps  |  so    2 Kbps |  erri       0 |  erro       0  | drpo       0  |
> > > > NET |  lo      ---- |  pcki      16 |  pcko      16  | si    2 Kbps  |  so    2 Kbps |  erri       0 |  erro       0  | drpo       0  |
> > > > 
> > > >   PID    TID   RUID      EUID        THR  SYSCPU   USRCPU   VGROW    RGROW   RDDSK    WRDSK  ST   EXC  S   CPUNR   CPU   CMD        1/3
> > > > 14973      -   root      root          1   8.92s    0.00s      0K       0K      0K     144K  --     -  S       0   89%   kworker/u8:14
> > > > 17450      -   root      root          1   0.86s    0.00s      0K       0K      0K      32K  --     -  R       3    9%   kworker/u8:5
> > > >   788      -   root      root          1   0.25s    0.00s      0K       0K    128K   18880K  --     -  S       3    3%   btrfs-transact
> > > > 12254      -   root      root          1   0.14s    0.00s      0K       0K     64K     576K  --     -  S       2    1%   kworker/u8:3
> > > > 17332      -   root      root          1   0.11s    0.00s      0K       0K    112K    1348K  --     -  S       2    1%   kworker/u8:4
> > > >  3291      -   martin    martin        4   0.01s    0.09s      0K       0K      0K       0K  --     -  S       1    1%   plasma-deskto
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ATOP - merkaba                          2014/12/27  13:47:12                          -----------                           10s elapsed
> > > > PRC |  sys   10.78s |  user   0.44s |  #proc    334  | #trun      3  |  #tslpi   547 |  #tslpu     3 |  #zombie    0  | no  procacct  |
> > > > CPU |  sys     106% |  user      4% |  irq       0%  | idle    288%  |  wait      1% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.00GHz  | curscal  93%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys      93% |  user      0% |  irq       0%  | idle      7%  |  cpu002 w  0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.00GHz  | curscal  93%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys       7% |  user      0% |  irq       0%  | idle     93%  |  cpu003 w  0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.01GHz  | curscal  94%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys       3% |  user      2% |  irq       0%  | idle     94%  |  cpu000 w  0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.00GHz  | curscal  93%  |
> > > > cpu |  sys       3% |  user      2% |  irq       0%  | idle     95%  |  cpu001 w  0% |  guest     0% |  curf 3.00GHz  | curscal  93%  |
> > > > CPL |  avg1    3.33 |  avg5    1.56 |  avg15   1.20  |               |  csw    38253 |  intr   23104 |                | numcpu     4  |
> > > > MEM |  tot    15.5G |  free    4.9G |  cache   8.7G  | buff    0.0M  |  slab  336.5M |  shmem 207.2M |  vmbal   0.0M  | hptot   0.0M  |
> > > > SWP |  tot    12.0G |  free   11.7G |                |               |               |               |  vmcom   3.4G  | vmlim  19.7G  |
> > > > LVM |    msata-home |  busy      2% |  read       0  | write   2337  |  KiB/w      3 |  MBr/s   0.00 |  MBw/s   0.91  | avio 0.07 ms  |
> > > > LVM |     sata-home |  busy      2% |  read      36  | write   2337  |  KiB/w      3 |  MBr/s   0.01 |  MBw/s   0.91  | avio 0.07 ms  |
> > > > LVM |  msata-debian |  busy      1% |  read       1  | write   1630  |  KiB/w      4 |  MBr/s   0.00 |  MBw/s   0.65  | avio 0.03 ms  |
> > > > LVM |   sata-debian |  busy      0% |  read       0  | write   1019  |  KiB/w      4 |  MBr/s   0.00 |  MBw/s   0.41  | avio 0.02 ms  |
> > > > DSK |           sdb |  busy      2% |  read       1  | write   2545  |  KiB/w      5 |  MBr/s   0.00 |  MBw/s   1.45  | avio 0.07 ms  |
> > > > DSK |           sda |  busy      1% |  read      36  | write   2461  |  KiB/w      5 |  MBr/s   0.01 |  MBw/s   1.28  | avio 0.06 ms  |
> > > > NET |  transport    |  tcpi      20 |  tcpo      20  | udpi       1  |  udpo       1 |  tcpao      1 |  tcppo      1  | tcprs      0  |
> > > > NET |  network      |  ipi       21 |  ipo       21  | ipfrw      0  |  deliv     21 |               |  icmpi      0  | icmpo      0  |
> > > > NET |  eth0      0% |  pcki       5 |  pcko       5  | si    0 Kbps  |  so    0 Kbps |  erri       0 |  erro       0  | drpo       0  |
> > > > NET |  lo      ---- |  pcki      16 |  pcko      16  | si    2 Kbps  |  so    2 Kbps |  erri       0 |  erro       0  | drpo       0  |
> > > > 
> > > >   PID    TID   RUID      EUID        THR  SYSCPU   USRCPU   VGROW    RGROW   RDDSK    WRDSK  ST   EXC  S   CPUNR   CPU   CMD        1/3
> > > > 17450      -   root      root          1   9.96s    0.00s      0K       0K      0K       0K  --     -  R       2  100%   kworker/u8:5
> > > >  4746      -   martin    martin        2   0.06s    0.15s      0K       0K      0K       0K  --     -  S       1    2%   konsole
> > > > 10508      -   root      root          1   0.13s    0.00s      0K       0K     96K    4048K  --     -  S       1    1%   kworker/u8:18
> > > >  1488      -   root      root          1   0.06s    0.06s      0K       0K      0K       0K  --     -  S       0    1%   Xorg
> > > > 17332      -   root      root          1   0.12s    0.00s      0K       0K     96K     580K  --     -  R       3    1%   kworker/u8:4
> > > > 17454      -   root      root          1   0.11s    0.00s      0K       0K     32K    4416K  --     -  D       1    1%   kworker/u8:6
> > > > 17516      -   root      root          1   0.09s    0.00s      0K       0K     16K     136K  --     -  S       3    1%   kworker/u8:7
> > > >  3268      -   martin    martin        3   0.02s    0.05s      0K       0K      0K       0K  --     -  S       1    1%   kwin
> > > > 10036      -   root      root          1   0.05s    0.02s      0K       0K      0K       0K  --     -  R       0    1%   atop
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So BTRFS is basically busy with itself and nothing else. Look at the SSD
> > > > usage. They are *idling* around. Heck 2400 write accesses in 10 seconds.
> > > > Thats a joke with SSDs that can do 40000 IOPS (depending on how and what
> > > > you measure of course, like request size, read, write, iodepth and so).
> > > > 
> > > > Its kworker/u8:5 utilizing 100% of one core for minutes.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Its the random write case it seems. Here are values from fio job:
> > > > 
> > > > martin@merkaba:~> fio ssd-test.fio
> > > > seq-write: (g=0): rw=write, bs=4K-4K/4K-4K/4K-4K, ioengine=sync, iodepth=1
> > > > rand-write: (g=1): rw=randwrite, bs=4K-4K/4K-4K/4K-4K, ioengine=sync, iodepth=1
> > > > fio-2.1.11
> > > > Starting 2 processes
> > > > Jobs: 1 (f=1): [_(1),w(1)] [3.6% done] [0KB/0KB/0KB /s] [0/0/0 iops] [eta 01h:06m:26s]
> > > > seq-write: (groupid=0, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=19212: Sat Dec 27 13:48:33 2014
> > > >   write: io=4096.0MB, bw=343683KB/s, iops=85920, runt= 12204msec
> > > >     clat (usec): min=3, max=38048, avg=10.52, stdev=205.25
> > > >      lat (usec): min=3, max=38048, avg=10.66, stdev=205.43
> > > >     clat percentiles (usec):
> > > >      |  1.00th=[    4],  5.00th=[    4], 10.00th=[    4], 20.00th=[    4],
> > > >      | 30.00th=[    4], 40.00th=[    5], 50.00th=[    5], 60.00th=[    5],
> > > >      | 70.00th=[    7], 80.00th=[    8], 90.00th=[    8], 95.00th=[    9],
> > > >      | 99.00th=[   14], 99.50th=[   20], 99.90th=[  211], 99.95th=[ 2128],
> > > >      | 99.99th=[10304]
> > > >     bw (KB  /s): min=164328, max=812984, per=100.00%, avg=345585.75, stdev=201695.20
> > > >     lat (usec) : 4=0.18%, 10=95.31%, 20=4.00%, 50=0.18%, 100=0.12%
> > > >     lat (usec) : 250=0.12%, 500=0.02%, 750=0.01%, 1000=0.01%
> > > >     lat (msec) : 2=0.01%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.03%, 20=0.01%, 50=0.01%
> > > >   cpu          : usr=13.55%, sys=46.89%, ctx=7810, majf=0, minf=6
> > > >   IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
> > > >      submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
> > > >      complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
> > > >      issued    : total=r=0/w=1048576/d=0, short=r=0/w=0/d=0
> > > >      latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1
> > > > 
> > > > Seems fine.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > But:
> > > > 
> > > > rand-write: (groupid=1, jobs=1): err= 0: pid=19243: Sat Dec 27 13:48:33 2014
> > > >   write: io=140336KB, bw=1018.4KB/s, iops=254, runt=137803msec
> > > >     clat (usec): min=4, max=21299K, avg=3708.02, stdev=266885.61
> > > >      lat (usec): min=4, max=21299K, avg=3708.14, stdev=266885.61
> > > >     clat percentiles (usec):
> > > >      |  1.00th=[    4],  5.00th=[    5], 10.00th=[    5], 20.00th=[    5],
> > > >      | 30.00th=[    6], 40.00th=[    6], 50.00th=[    6], 60.00th=[    6],
> > > >      | 70.00th=[    7], 80.00th=[    7], 90.00th=[    9], 95.00th=[   10],
> > > >      | 99.00th=[   18], 99.50th=[   19], 99.90th=[   28], 99.95th=[  116],
> > > >      | 99.99th=[16711680]
> > > >     bw (KB  /s): min=    0, max= 3426, per=100.00%, avg=1030.10, stdev=938.02
> > > >     lat (usec) : 10=92.63%, 20=6.89%, 50=0.43%, 100=0.01%, 250=0.02%
> > > >     lat (msec) : 250=0.01%, 500=0.01%, >=2000=0.02%
> > > >   cpu          : usr=0.06%, sys=1.59%, ctx=28720, majf=0, minf=7
> > > >   IO depths    : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
> > > >      submit    : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
> > > >      complete  : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0%
> > > >      issued    : total=r=0/w=35084/d=0, short=r=0/w=0/d=0
> > > >      latency   : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1
> > > > 
> > > > Run status group 0 (all jobs):
> > > >   WRITE: io=4096.0MB, aggrb=343682KB/s, minb=343682KB/s, maxb=343682KB/s, mint=12204msec, maxt=12204msec
> > > > 
> > > > Run status group 1 (all jobs):
> > > >   WRITE: io=140336KB, aggrb=1018KB/s, minb=1018KB/s, maxb=1018KB/s, mint=137803msec, maxt=137803msec
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > What? 254 IOPS? With a Dual SSD BTRFS RAID 1?
> > > > 
> > > > What?
> > > > 
> > > > Ey, *what*?
> > […] 
> > > > There we go:
> > > > 
> > > > Bug 90401 - btrfs kworker thread uses up 100% of a Sandybridge core for minutes on random write into big file
> > > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90401
> > > 
> > > I have done more tests.
> > > 
> > > This is on the same /home after extending it to 170 GiB and balancing it to
> > > btrfs balance start -dusage=80
> > > 
> > > It has plenty of free space free. I updated the bug report and hope it can
> > > give an easy enough to comprehend summary. The new tests are in:
> > > 
> > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90401#c6
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Pasting below for discussion on list. Summary: I easily get 38000 (!)
> > > IOPS. It may be an idea to reduce to 160 GiB, but right now this does
> > > not work as it says no free space on device when trying to downsize it.
> > > I may try with 165 or 162GiB.
> > > 
> > > So now we have three IOPS figures:
> > > 
> > > - 256 IOPS in worst case scenario
> > > - 4700 IOPS when trying to reproduce worst case scenario with a fresh and small
> > > BTRFS
> > > - 38000 IOPS when /home has unused device space to allocate chunks from
> > > 
> > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90401#c8
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This is another test.
> > 
> > 
> > Okay, and this is the last series of tests for today.
> > 
> > Conclusion:
> > 
> > I cannot manage to get it down to the knees as before, but I come near to it.
> > 
> > Still its 8000 IOPS, instead of 250 IOPS, in an according to btrfs fi sh
> > even *worse* situation than before.
> > 
> > That hints me at the need to look at the free space fragmentation, as in the
> > beginning the problem started appearing with:
> > 
> > merkaba:~> btrfs fi sh /home
> > Label: 'home'  uuid: […]
> >         Total devices 2 FS bytes used 144.41GiB
> >         devid    1 size 160.00GiB used 160.00GiB path /dev/mapper/msata-home
> >         devid    2 size 160.00GiB used 160.00GiB path /dev/mapper/sata-home
> > 
> > Btrfs v3.17
> > merkaba:~> btrfs fi df /home
> > Data, RAID1: total=154.97GiB, used=141.12GiB
> > System, RAID1: total=32.00MiB, used=48.00KiB
> > Metadata, RAID1: total=5.00GiB, used=3.29GiB
> > GlobalReserve, single: total=512.00MiB, used=0.00B
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, thats 13 GiB of free space *within* the chunks.
> > 
> > So while I can get it down in IOPS by bringing it to a situation where it
> > can not reserve additional data chunks again, I cannot recreate the
> > abysmal 250 IOPS figure by this. Not even with my /home filesystem.
> > 
> > So there is more to it. I think its important to look into free space
> > fragmentation. It seems it needs an *aged* filesystem to recreate. At
> > it seems the balances really helped. As I am not able to recreate the
> > issue to that extent right now.
> > 
> > So this shows my original idea about free device space to allocate from
> > also doesn´t explain it fully. It seems to be something thats going on
> > within the chunks that explains the worst case <300 IOPS, kworker using
> > one core for minutes and desktop locked scenario.
> > 
> > Is there a way to view free space fragmentation in BTRFS?
> 
> So to rephrase that:
> 
> From what I perceive the worst case issue happens when
> 
> 1) BTRFS cannot reserve any new chunks from unused device space anymore.
> 
> 2) The free space in the existing chunks is highly fragmented.
> 
> Only one of those conditions is not sufficient to trigger it.
> 
> Thats at least my current idea about it.

With

merkaba:~> btrfs fi df /home
Data, RAID1: total=163.87GiB, used=146.92GiB
System, RAID1: total=32.00MiB, used=48.00KiB
Metadata, RAID1: total=5.94GiB, used=3.26GiB
GlobalReserve, single: total=512.00MiB, used=0.00B
merkaba:~> btrfs fi sh /home
Label: 'home'  uuid: […]
        Total devices 2 FS bytes used 150.18GiB
        devid    1 size 170.00GiB used 169.84GiB path /dev/mapper/msata-home
        devid    2 size 170.00GiB used 169.84GiB path /dev/mapper/sata-home

Btrfs v3.17

I had a noticable hang during sdelete.exe -z in Windows XP VM with 20 GiB VDI file – Patrik on mailing list told me they have changed the argument from -c to -z as I wondered by VBoxManage modifyhd Winlala.vdi --compact did not reduce the size of the file).

It was not as bad, but desktop was locked for more than 5 seconds easily.

So this also happens with larger free space *within* the chunks. Before I to the VBoxManage --compact I will now rebalance partly.

So this definately shows, it can happen when BTRFS cannot reserve any new
chunks anymore, yet still has *plenty* of free space within the existing data
chunks. 

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-29  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-26 13:37 BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-26 14:20 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-26 14:41   ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27  3:33     ` Duncan
2014-12-26 15:59 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27  4:26   ` Duncan
2014-12-26 22:48 ` Robert White
2014-12-27  5:54   ` Duncan
2014-12-27  9:01   ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27  9:30     ` Hugo Mills
2014-12-27 10:54       ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 11:52         ` Robert White
2014-12-27 13:16           ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 13:49             ` Robert White
2014-12-27 14:06               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 14:00             ` Robert White
2014-12-27 14:14               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 14:21                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 15:14                   ` Robert White
2014-12-27 16:01                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28  0:25                       ` Robert White
2014-12-28  1:01                         ` Bardur Arantsson
2014-12-28  4:03                           ` Robert White
2014-12-28 12:03                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 17:04                               ` Patrik Lundquist
2014-12-29 10:14                                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 12:07                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 14:52                               ` Robert White
2014-12-28 15:42                                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 15:47                                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-29  0:27                                   ` Robert White
2014-12-29  9:14                                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 16:10                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 14:19               ` Robert White
2014-12-27 11:11       ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 12:08         ` Robert White
2014-12-27 13:55       ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 14:54         ` Robert White
2014-12-27 16:26           ` Hugo Mills
2014-12-27 17:11             ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 17:59               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28  0:06             ` Robert White
2014-12-28 11:05               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 13:00         ` BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again (further tests) Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 13:40           ` BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again (further tests, as close as I dare) Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 13:56             ` BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again (further tests, as close as I dare, current idea) Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 15:00               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-29  9:25               ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2014-12-27 18:28       ` BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again Zygo Blaxell
2014-12-27 18:40         ` Hugo Mills
2014-12-27 19:23           ` BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again (no complete lockups, "just" tasks stuck for some time) Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-29  2:07             ` Zygo Blaxell
2014-12-29  9:32               ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-01-06 20:03                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2015-01-07 19:08                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-01-07 21:41                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2015-01-08  5:45                     ` Duncan
2015-01-08 10:18                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-01-09  8:25                         ` Duncan

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