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From: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>
To: dsterba@suse.cz, "André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-dev@igalia.com, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	Anand Jain <anand.jain@oracle.com>,
	"Guilherme G . Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/1] ovl: brtfs' temp_fsid doesn't work with ovl index=on
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:38:33 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6982bc0a-bb12-458a-bb8c-890c363ba807@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251014182414.GD13776@twin.jikos.cz>



在 2025/10/15 04:54, David Sterba 写道:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 10:57:06PM -0300, André Almeida wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> When using overlayfs with the mount option index=on, the first time a directory is
>> used as upper dir, overlayfs stores in a xattr "overlay.origin" the UUID of the
>> filesystem being used in the layers. If the upper dir is reused, overlayfs
>> refuses to mount for a different filesystem, by comparing the UUID with what's
>> stored at overlay.origin, and it fails with "failed to verify upper root origin"
>> on dmesg. Remounting with the very same fs is supported and works fine.
>>
>> However, btrfs mounts may have volatiles UUIDs. When mounting the exact same
>> disk image with btrfs, a random UUID is assigned for the following disks each
>> time they are mounted, stored at temp_fsid and used across the kernel as the
>> disk UUID. `btrfs filesystem show` presents that. Calling statfs() however shows
>> the original (and duplicated) UUID for all disks.
>>
>> This feature doesn't work well with overlayfs with index=on, as when the image
>> is mounted a second time, will get a different UUID and ovl will refuse to
>> mount, breaking the user expectation that using the same image should work. A
>> small script can be find in the end of this cover letter that illustrates this.
>>
>> >From this, I can think of some options:
>>
>> - Use statfs() internally to always get the fsid, that is persistent. The patch
>> here illustrates that approach, but doesn't fully implement it.
>> - Create a new sb op, called get_uuid() so the filesystem returns what's
>> appropriated.
>> - Have a workaround in ovl for btrfs.
>> - Document this as unsupported, and userland needs to erase overlay.origin each
>> time it wants to remount.
>> - If ovl detects that temp_fsid and index are being used at the same time,
>> refuses to mount.
>>
>> I'm not sure which one would be better here, so I would like to hear some ideas
>> on this.
> 
> I haven't looked deeper if there's a workable solution, but the feature
> combination should be refused. I don't think this will affect many
> users.
> 

I believe the root problem is that we're not fully implementing the 
proper handling just like other single-device fses.

We do not use on-disk flags which means at least one fsid is registered 
into btrfs, thus we have to use different temp-fsid.

If fully single-device feature flag is properly implemented, we should 
be able to return the same uuid without extra hacks thus solve the problem.

Thanks,
Qu

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-14 21:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-14  1:57 [RFC PATCH 0/1] ovl: brtfs' temp_fsid doesn't work with ovl index=on André Almeida
2025-10-14  1:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] ovl: Use fsid as unique identifier for trusted origin André Almeida
2025-10-14  4:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-14  5:13     ` Qu Wenruo
2025-10-14 17:40       ` David Sterba
2025-10-14 17:55         ` André Almeida
2025-10-14 23:46     ` Anand Jain
2025-10-15  1:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-20 21:43       ` Dave Chinner
2025-10-21  1:16         ` Anand Jain
2025-10-15 10:52   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-10-14  5:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] ovl: brtfs' temp_fsid doesn't work with ovl index=on Qu Wenruo
2025-10-14 18:24 ` David Sterba
2025-10-14 21:08   ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2025-10-15  0:05     ` Anand Jain
2025-10-15  4:18       ` Qu Wenruo
2025-10-14 22:04 ` Anand Jain
2025-10-15 11:09 ` Amir Goldstein
2025-10-16  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig

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