From: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org>
Cc: Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net>,
Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Adventures in btrfs raid5 disk recovery
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 07:24:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <74831e14-62b1-209a-73c0-416766d8dc46@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtSt832VcaKanj9cn9wY6+FZ68G9mOuSS=8i-AzmGQuV9g@mail.gmail.com>
On 2016-06-24 01:20, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Zygo Blaxell
> <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org> wrote:
>
>>> With simple files changing one character with vi and gedit,
>>> I get completely different logical and physical numbers with each
>>> change, so it's clearly cowing the entire stripe (192KiB in my 3 dev
>>> raid5).
>>
>> You are COWing the entire file because vi and gedit do truncate followed
>> by full-file write.
>
> I'm seeing the file inode changes with either a vi or gedit
> modification, even when file size is exactly the same, just character
> substitute. So as far as VFS and Btrfs are concerned, it's an entirely
> different file, so it's like faux-CoW that would have happened on any
> file system, not an overwrite.
Yes, at least Vim (which is what most Linux systems use for vi) writes
to a temporary file then does a replace by rename. The idea is that
POSIX implies that this should be atomic (except it's not actually
required by POSIX, and even on some journaled and COW filesystems, it
isn't actually atomic).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-24 11:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-20 3:44 Adventures in btrfs raid5 disk recovery Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-20 18:13 ` Roman Mamedov
2016-06-20 19:11 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-20 19:30 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-20 20:40 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-20 21:27 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-21 1:55 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-21 3:53 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-22 17:14 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-22 20:35 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-23 19:32 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2016-06-24 0:26 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 1:47 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24 4:02 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 8:50 ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24 9:52 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 10:16 ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24 10:19 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 10:59 ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24 11:36 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-24 17:40 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 18:06 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24 17:06 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 17:21 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 17:52 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 18:19 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-25 16:44 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-25 21:52 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-26 7:54 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-26 15:03 ` Duncan
2016-06-26 19:30 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-26 19:52 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-27 11:21 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-27 16:17 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-27 20:54 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-27 21:02 ` Henk Slager
2016-06-27 21:57 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-27 22:30 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-28 1:52 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-28 2:39 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-28 3:17 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-28 11:23 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-28 12:05 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-28 12:14 ` Steven Haigh
2016-06-28 12:25 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-28 16:40 ` Steven Haigh
2016-06-28 18:01 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-28 18:17 ` Steven Haigh
2016-07-05 23:05 ` Chris Murphy
2016-07-06 11:51 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-07-06 16:43 ` Chris Murphy
2016-07-06 17:18 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-07-06 18:45 ` Chris Murphy
2016-07-06 19:15 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-07-06 21:01 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 16:52 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 16:56 ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24 16:39 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24 1:36 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-23 23:37 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 2:07 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24 5:20 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 10:16 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 17:33 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 11:24 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn [this message]
2016-06-24 16:32 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24 2:17 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-22 4:06 ` Adventures in btrfs raid5 disk recovery - update Zygo Blaxell
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