From: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Still not production ready
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 23:35:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8336788.myI8ELqtIK@merkaba> (raw)
Hi!
For me it is still not production ready. Again I ran into:
btrfs kworker thread uses up 100% of a Sandybridge core for minutes on random
write into big file
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90401
No matter whether SLES 12 uses it as default for root, no matter whether
Fujitsu and Facebook use it: I will not let this onto any customer machine
without lots and lots of underprovisioning and rigorous free space monitoring.
Actually I will renew my recommendations in my trainings to be careful with
BTRFS.
>From my experience the monitoring would check for:
merkaba:~> btrfs fi show /home
Label: 'home' uuid: […]
Total devices 2 FS bytes used 156.31GiB
devid 1 size 170.00GiB used 164.13GiB path /dev/mapper/msata-home
devid 2 size 170.00GiB used 164.13GiB path /dev/mapper/sata-home
If "used" is same as "size" then make big fat alarm. It is not sufficient for
it to happen. It can run for quite some time just fine without any issues, but
I never have seen a kworker thread using 100% of one core for extended period
of time blocking everything else on the fs without this condition being met.
In addition to that last time I tried it aborts scrub any of my BTRFS
filesstems. Reported in another thread here that got completely ignored so
far. I think I could go back to 4.2 kernel to make this work.
I am not going to bother to go into more detail on any on this, as I get the
impression that my bug reports and feedback get ignored. So I spare myself the
time to do this work for now.
Only thing I wonder now whether this all could be cause my /home is already
more than one and a half year old. Maybe newly created filesystems are created
in a way that prevents these issues? But it already has a nice global reserve:
merkaba:~> btrfs fi df /
Data, RAID1: total=27.98GiB, used=24.07GiB
System, RAID1: total=19.00MiB, used=16.00KiB
Metadata, RAID1: total=2.00GiB, used=536.80MiB
GlobalReserve, single: total=192.00MiB, used=0.00B
Actually when I see that this free space thing is still not fixed for good I
wonder whether it is fixable at all. Is this an inherent issue of BTRFS or
more generally COW filesystem design?
I think it got somewhat better. It took much longer to come into that state
again than last time, but still, blocking like this is *no* option for a
*production ready* filesystem.
I am seriously consider to switch to XFS for my production laptop again. Cause
I never saw any of these free space issues with any of the XFS or Ext4
filesystems I used in the last 10 years.
Thanks,
--
Martin
next reply other threads:[~2015-12-13 22:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-13 22:35 Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2015-12-13 23:19 ` Still not production ready Marc MERLIN
2015-12-14 7:59 ` still kworker at 100% cpu in all of device size allocated with chunks situations with write load (was: Re: Still not production ready) Martin Steigerwald
2015-12-14 2:08 ` Still not production ready Qu Wenruo
2015-12-14 6:21 ` Duncan
2015-12-14 7:32 ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-14 12:10 ` Duncan
2015-12-14 19:08 ` Chris Murphy
2015-12-14 20:33 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-14 8:18 ` still kworker at 100% cpu in all of device size allocated with chunks situations with write load (was: Re: Still not production ready) Martin Steigerwald
2015-12-14 8:48 ` still kworker at 100% cpu in all of device size allocated with chunks situations with write load Qu Wenruo
2015-12-14 8:59 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-12-14 9:10 ` safety of journal based fs (was: Re: still kworker at 100% cpu…) Martin Steigerwald
2015-12-22 2:34 ` Kai Krakow
2015-12-15 21:59 ` Still not production ready Chris Mason
2015-12-15 23:16 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-12-16 1:20 ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-16 1:53 ` Liu Bo
2015-12-16 2:19 ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-16 2:30 ` Liu Bo
2015-12-16 14:27 ` Chris Mason
2016-01-01 10:44 ` still kworker at 100% cpu in all of device size allocated with chunks situations with write load Martin Steigerwald
2016-03-20 11:24 ` kworker threads may be working saner now instead of using 100% of a CPU core for minutes (Re: Still not production ready) Martin Steigerwald
2016-09-07 9:53 ` Christian Rohmann
2016-09-07 14:28 ` Martin Steigerwald
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