From: Kai Krakow <hurikhan77+btrfs@gmail.com>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Provide a better free space estimate on RAID1
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 00:17:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9hqisa-46c.ln1@hurikhan77.spdns.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20140208173310.1f90af3b@natsu
Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net> schrieb:
>> It should show the raw space available. Btrfs also supports compression
>> and doesn't try to be smart about how much compressed data would fit in
>> the free space of the drive. If one is using RAID1, it's supposed to fill
>> up with a rate of 2:1. If one is using compression, it's supposed to fill
>> up with a rate of maybe 1:5 for mostly text files.
>
> Imagine a small business with some 30-40 employees. There is a piece of
> paper near the door at the office so that everyone sees it when entering
> or leaving, which says:
>
> "Dear employees,
>
> Please keep in mind that on the fileserver '\\DepartmentC', in the
> directory '\PublicStorage7' the free space you see as being available
> needs to be divided by two; On the server '\\DepartmentD', in
> '\StorageArchive' and '\VideoFiles', multiplied by two-thirds. For more
> details please contact the IT operations team. Further assistance will be
> provided at the monthly training seminar.
"Dear employees,
Please keep in mind that when you run out of space on the fileserver
'\\DepartmentC', when you free up space in the directory '\PublicStorage7'
the free space you gain on '\StorageArchive' is only one third of the amount
you deleted, and in '\VideoFiles', you gain only one half. For more details
please contact the IT operations team. Further assistance will be provided
at the monthly training seminar.
Regards,
John S, CTO."
The exercise of why is left to the reader...
The proposed fix simply does not fix the problem. It simply shifts it
introducing the need for another fix somewhere else, which in turn probably
also introduces another need for a fix, and so forth... This will become an
endless effort of fixing and tuning.
It simply does not work because btrfs' design does not allow that. Feel free
to fix it but be prepared for the reincarnation of this problem when per-
subvolume raid levels become introduced. The problem has to be fixed in user
space or with a new API call.
--
Replies to list only preferred.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-08 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-05 20:15 Provide a better free space estimate on RAID1 Roman Mamedov
2014-02-06 7:38 ` Brendan Hide
2014-02-06 12:45 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-02-06 19:54 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-02-07 4:40 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-02-07 5:30 ` Chris Murphy
2014-02-07 6:08 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-02-07 18:44 ` Chris Murphy
2014-02-08 21:46 ` Kai Krakow
2014-02-08 11:21 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-02-07 10:02 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-02-08 21:50 ` Kai Krakow
2014-02-08 15:46 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-02-08 16:36 ` [PATCH][V2] " Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-02-09 17:20 ` [PATCH][V3] Provide a better free space estimate [was]Re: " Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-02-07 14:05 ` Frank Kingswood
2014-02-06 20:21 ` Josef Bacik
2014-02-07 20:32 ` Kai Krakow
2014-02-08 11:33 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-02-08 11:46 ` Hugo Mills
2014-02-08 21:35 ` Kai Krakow
2014-02-08 22:10 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-02-08 22:45 ` cwillu
2014-02-08 23:27 ` Kai Krakow
2014-02-08 23:32 ` Kai Krakow
2014-02-09 1:08 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-02-09 9:39 ` Kai Krakow
2014-02-09 6:38 ` Duncan
2014-02-09 9:20 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-02-10 0:02 ` Duncan
2014-02-10 9:14 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-02-09 9:37 ` Kai Krakow
2014-02-08 23:17 ` Kai Krakow [this message]
2014-02-09 1:55 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-02-09 2:21 ` Chris Murphy
2014-02-09 2:29 ` Chris Murphy
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