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From: Yoshinori Sano <yoshinori.sano@gmail.com>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@redhat.com>
Cc: raven@themaw.net, chris.mason@oracle.com, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: On Removing BUG_ON macros
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:13:10 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=R5iHqLTMGo_NZvYyXN6oo7g1foCUrdgM4+xsK@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101108124211.GA27816@dhcp231-156.rdu.redhat.com>

2010/11/8 Josef Bacik <josef@redhat.com>:
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 10:54:07AM +0800, Ian Kent wrote:
>> On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 09:51 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
>> > On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 04:16:47PM +0900, Yoshinori Sano wrote:
>> > > This is a question I've posted on the #btrfs IRC channel today.
>> > > hyperair adviced me to contact with Josef Bacik or Chris Mason.
>> > > So, I post my question to this maling list.
>> > >
>> > > Here are my post on the IRC:
>> > >
>> > > Actually, I want to remove BUG_ON(ret) around the Btrfs code.
>> > > The motivation is to make the Btrfs code more robust.
>> > > First of all, is this meaningless?
>> > >
>> > > For example, there are code like the following:
>> > >
>> > >     struct btrfs_path *path;
>> > >     path = btrfs_alloc_path();
>> > >     BUG_ON(!path);
>> > >
>> > > This is a frequenty used pattern of current Btrfs code.
>> > > A btrfs_alloc_path()'s caller has to deal with the allocation failure
>> > > instead of using BUG_ON.  However, (this is what most interesting
>> > > thing for me) can the caller do any proper error handlings here?
>> > > I mean, is this a critical situation where we cannot recover from?
>> > >
>> >
>> > No we're just lazy ;).  Tho making sure the caller can recover from getting
>> > -ENOMEM is very important, which is why in some of these paths we just do BUG_ON
>> > since fixing the callers is tricky.  A good strategy for things like this is to
>> > do something like
>> >
>> > static int foo = 1;
>> >
>> > path = btrfs_alloc_path();
>> > if (!path || !(foo % 1000))
>> >     return -ENOMEM;
>> > foo++;
>>
>> Hahaha, I love it.
>>
>> So, return ENOMEM every 1000 times we call the containing function!
>>
>> >
>> > that way you can catch all the callers and make sure we're handling the error
>> > all the way up the chain properly.  Thanks,
>>
>> Yeah, I suspect this approach will be a bit confusing though.
>>
>> I believe that it will be more effective, although time consuming, to
>> work through the call tree function by function. Although, as I have
>> said, the problem is working out what needs to be done to recover,
>> rather than working out what the callers are. I'm not at all sure yet
>> but I also suspect that it may not be possible to recover in some cases,
>> which will likely lead to serious rework of some subsystems (but, hey,
>> who am I to say, I really don't have any clue yet).
>>
>
> So we talked about this at plumbers.  First thing we need is a way to flip the
> filesystem read only, that way we can deal with the simple corruption cases.
> And then we can start looking at these harder cases where it's really unclear
> about how to recover.
>
> Thankfully because we're COW we really shouldn't have any cases that we have to
> unwind anything, we just fail the operation and go on our happy merry way.  The
> only tricky thing is where we get ENOMEM when say inserting the metadata for
> data after writing out the data, since that will leave data just sitting around.
> Probably should look at what NFS does with dirty pages when the server hangs up.
> Thanks,

Is making the filesystem read only triggered by something like ext3_abort
(fs/ext3/super.c)?  We might get ideas from Ext3 in addition to NFS.
(Just an idea, I don't have confidence at all...)

Here is the comment located at ext3_abort.  The situation described here is
partly similar to what we talked about in this thread.  So, I think this is
perhaps useful information for us.

/*
 * ext3_abort is a much stronger failure handler than ext3_error.  The
 * abort function may be used to deal with unrecoverable failures such
 * as journal IO errors or ENOMEM at a critical moment in log management.
 *
 * We unconditionally force the filesystem into an ABORT|READONLY state,
 * unless the error response on the fs has been set to panic in which
 * case we take the easy way out and panic immediately.
 */

Thank you,

-- 
Yoshinori Sano <yoshinori.sano@gmail.com>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-09  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-07  7:16 On Removing BUG_ON macros Yoshinori Sano
2010-11-07 14:51 ` Josef Bacik
2010-11-08  2:54   ` Ian Kent
2010-11-08 12:42     ` Josef Bacik
2010-11-08 14:06       ` Ian Kent
2010-11-08 14:15         ` Josef Bacik
2010-11-08 15:02           ` Ian Kent
2010-11-11  4:32             ` Ian Kent
2010-12-01 18:31               ` Josef Bacik
2010-11-09  6:13       ` Yoshinori Sano [this message]
2010-11-08 13:17   ` Yoshinori Sano
2010-11-08 13:28     ` Josef Bacik
2010-11-08 23:02       ` Yoshinori Sano
2010-11-08  2:36 ` Ian Kent

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