From: Patrik Lundquist <patrik.lundquist@gmail.com>
To: Phillip Susi <psusi@ubuntu.com>
Cc: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: scrub implies failing drive - smartctl blissfully unaware
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:02:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA7pwKNOxZ=pg_uJ2iO67xo-=aWqNikbQKJPT5QOxEi2av1sRA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5474F5D1.2070908@ubuntu.com>
On 25 November 2014 at 22:34, Phillip Susi <psusi@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On 11/19/2014 7:05 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > I'm not a hard drive engineer, so I can't argue either point. But
> > consumer drives clearly do behave this way. On Linux, the kernel's
> > default 30 second command timer eventually results in what look
> > like link errors rather than drive read errors. And instead of the
> > problems being fixed with the normal md and btrfs recovery
> > mechanisms, the errors simply get worse and eventually there's data
> > loss. Exhibits A, B, C, D - the linux-raid list is full to the brim
> > of such reports and their solution.
>
> I have seen plenty of error logs of people with drives that do
> properly give up and return an error instead of timing out so I get
> the feeling that most drives are properly behaved. Is there a
> particular make/model of drive that is known to exhibit this silly
> behavior?
I had a couple of Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 (codename Moose) drives
with seriously retarded firmware.
They never reported a read error AFAIK but began to time out instead.
They wouldn't even respond after a link reset. I had to power cycle
the disks.
Funny days with ddrescue. Got almost everything off them.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-28 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2014-11-18 7:29 ` scrub implies failing drive - smartctl blissfully unaware Brendan Hide
2014-11-18 7:36 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-11-18 13:24 ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-18 15:16 ` Duncan
2014-11-18 12:08 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-11-18 13:25 ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-18 16:02 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-18 15:35 ` Marc MERLIN
2014-11-18 16:04 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-18 16:11 ` Marc MERLIN
2014-11-18 16:26 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-18 18:57 ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-18 20:58 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19 2:40 ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-19 15:11 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20 0:05 ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-25 21:34 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-25 23:13 ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-26 1:53 ` Rich Freeman
2014-12-01 19:10 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-28 15:02 ` Patrik Lundquist [this message]
2014-11-19 2:46 ` Duncan
2014-11-19 16:07 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19 21:05 ` Robert White
2014-11-19 21:47 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19 22:25 ` Robert White
2014-11-20 20:26 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20 22:45 ` Robert White
2014-11-21 15:11 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-21 21:12 ` Robert White
2014-11-21 21:41 ` Robert White
2014-11-22 22:06 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19 22:33 ` Robert White
2014-11-20 20:34 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20 23:08 ` Robert White
2014-11-21 15:27 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20 0:25 ` Duncan
2014-11-20 2:08 ` Robert White
2014-11-19 23:59 ` Duncan
2014-11-25 22:14 ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-28 15:55 ` Patrik Lundquist
2014-11-21 4:58 ` Zygo Blaxell
2014-11-21 7:05 ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-21 12:55 ` Ian Armstrong
2014-11-21 17:45 ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-22 7:18 ` Ian Armstrong
2014-11-21 17:42 ` Zygo Blaxell
2014-11-21 18:06 ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-22 2:25 ` Zygo Blaxell
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