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From: cwillu <cwillu@cwillu.com>
To: "Fajar A. Nugraha" <list@fajar.net>
Cc: Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy@gmail.com>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Can btrfs silently repair read-error in raid1
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 04:45:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAE5mzvg8HgZPgFmNB3ZeuJTfLtrfeXH417bEVuHFST5z=zOMFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG1y0seZD1n5sckdFx=BAJa+KQguKd-Dj9_Ti1EhJRY0bE2B9Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:36 AM, Fajar A. Nugraha <list@fajar.net> wrote:
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a quite unreliable SSD here which develops some bad blocks from
>> time to time which result in read-errors.
>> Once the block is written to again, its remapped internally and
>> everything is fine again for that block.
>>
>> Would it be possible to create 2 btrfs partitions on that drive and
>> use it in RAID1 - with btrfs silently repairing read-errors when they
>> occur?
>> Would it require special settings, to not fallback to read-only mode
>> when a read-error occurs?
>
> The problem would be how the SSD (and linux) behaves when it
> encounters bad blocks (not bad disks, which is easier).
>
> If it does "oh, I can't read this block. I just return an error
> immediately", then it's good.
>
> However, in most situation, it would be like "hmmm, I can't read this
> block, let me retry that again. What? still error? then lets retry it
> again, and again.", which could take several minutes for a single bad
> block. And during that time linux (the kernel) would do something like
> "hey, the disk is not responding. Why don't we try some stuff? Let's
> try resetting the link. If it doesn't work, try downgrading the link
> speed".
>
> In short, if you KNOW the SSD is already showing signs of bad blocks,
> better just throw it away.

The excessive number of retries (basically, the kernel repeating the
work the drive already attempted) is being addressed in the block
layer.

"[PATCH] libata-eh don't waste time retrying media errors (v3)", I
believe this is queued for 3.5

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-08 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-08  7:13 Can btrfs silently repair read-error in raid1 Clemens Eisserer
2012-05-08  7:26 ` Jan Schmidt
2012-05-08  7:36 ` Fajar A. Nugraha
2012-05-08 10:45   ` cwillu [this message]
2012-05-08 21:47     ` Hubert Kario
2012-05-09 11:08       ` Atila
2012-05-08 23:34 ` Chris Samuel

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