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From: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
To: kreijack@inwind.it
Cc: Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org>,
	Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
	Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net>,
	Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Adventures in btrfs raid5 disk recovery
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:26:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJCQCtRXqSCFZTca+Vwraa0vS-MzLQKEkr=s41Vypc-O0ZDdxQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5790aea9-0976-1742-7d1b-79dbe44008c3@inwind.it>

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@inwind.it> wrote:

>
> The raid5 write hole is avoided in BTRFS (and in ZFS) thanks to the checksum.

Yeah I'm kinda confused on this point.

https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID56

It says there is a write hole for Btrfs. But defines it in terms of
parity possibly being stale after a crash. I think the term comes not
from merely parity being wrong but parity being wrong *and* then being
used to wrongly reconstruct data because it's blindly trusted.

I don't read code well enough, but I'd be surprised if Btrfs
reconstructs from parity and doesn't then check the resulting
reconstructed data to its EXTENT_CSUM.



-- 
Chris Murphy

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-24  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-20  3:44 Adventures in btrfs raid5 disk recovery Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-20 18:13 ` Roman Mamedov
2016-06-20 19:11   ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-20 19:30     ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-20 20:40       ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-20 21:27         ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-21  1:55           ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-21  3:53             ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-22 17:14             ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-22 20:35               ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-23 19:32                 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2016-06-24  0:26                   ` Chris Murphy [this message]
2016-06-24  1:47                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24  4:02                       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24  8:50                         ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24  9:52                           ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 10:16                             ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24 10:19                               ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 10:59                                 ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24 11:36                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-24 17:40                               ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 18:06                                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24 17:06                             ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 17:21                               ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 17:52                                 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 18:19                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-25 16:44                                     ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-25 21:52                                       ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-26  7:54                                         ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-26 15:03                                           ` Duncan
2016-06-26 19:30                                           ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-26 19:52                                             ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-27 11:21                                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-27 16:17                                         ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-27 20:54                                           ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-27 21:02                                           ` Henk Slager
2016-06-27 21:57                                           ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-27 22:30                                             ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-28  1:52                                               ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-28  2:39                                                 ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-28  3:17                                                   ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-28 11:23                                                     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-28 12:05                                             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-28 12:14                                               ` Steven Haigh
2016-06-28 12:25                                                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-28 16:40                                                   ` Steven Haigh
2016-06-28 18:01                                                     ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-28 18:17                                                       ` Steven Haigh
2016-07-05 23:05                                                         ` Chris Murphy
2016-07-06 11:51                                                           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-07-06 16:43                                                             ` Chris Murphy
2016-07-06 17:18                                                               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-07-06 18:45                                                                 ` Chris Murphy
2016-07-06 19:15                                                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-07-06 21:01                                                                     ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 16:52                           ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 16:56                             ` Hugo Mills
2016-06-24 16:39                         ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24  1:36                   ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-23 23:37               ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24  2:07                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24  5:20                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 10:16                     ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-24 17:33                       ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-24 11:24                     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-24 16:32                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-24  2:17                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-06-22  4:06 ` Adventures in btrfs raid5 disk recovery - update Zygo Blaxell

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