From: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
To: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
Cc: Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Recommendations for balancing as part of regular maintenance?
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 15:09:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJCQCtS4ZKYbZGbpuOcCCuNdcZjNNUf=gkBu6Ky_DdJ-zVB+HQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c4908bdb-cd9c-929d-e681-16311b6adbc5@gmail.com>
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Austin S. Hemmelgarn
<ahferroin7@gmail.com> wrote:
> To that end, I propose the following text for the FAQ:
>
> Q: Do I need to run a balance regularly?
>
> A: While not strictly necessary for normal operations, running a filtered
> balance regularly can help prevent your filesystem from ending up with
> ENOSPC issues. The following command run daily on each BTRFS volume should
> be more than sufficient for most users:
>
> `btrfs balance start -dusage=25 -dlimit=2..10 -musage=25 -mlimit=2..10`
Daily? Seems excessive.
I've got multiple Btrfs file systems that I haven't balanced, full or
partial, in a year. And I have no problems. One is a laptop which
accumulates snapshots until roughly 25% free space remains and then
most of the snapshots are deleted, except the most recent few, all at
one time. I'm not experiencing any problems so far. The other is a NAS
and it's multiple copies, with maybe 100-200 snapshots. One backup
volume is 99% full, there's no more unallocated free space, I delete
snapshots only to make room for btrfs send receive to keep pushing the
most recent snapshot from the main volume to the backup. Again no
problems.
I really think suggestions this broad are just going to paper over
bugs or design flaws, we won't see as many bug reports and then real
problems won't get fixed.
I also thing the time based method is too subjective. What about the
layout means a balance is needed? And if it's really a suggestion, why
isn't there a chron or systemd unit that just does this for the user,
in btrfs-progs, working and enabled by default? I really do not like
all this hand holding of Btrfs, it's not going to make it better.
> A full, unfiltered balance (one without any options passed in) is completely
> unnecessary for normal usage of a filesystem.
That's good advice.
--
Chris Murphy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-13 22:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-08 15:55 Recommendations for balancing as part of regular maintenance? Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-08 16:20 ` ein
2018-01-08 16:34 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-08 18:17 ` Graham Cobb
2018-01-08 18:34 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-08 20:29 ` Martin Raiber
2018-01-09 8:33 ` Marat Khalili
2018-01-09 12:46 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-10 3:49 ` Duncan
2018-01-10 16:30 ` Tom Worster
2018-01-10 17:01 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-10 18:33 ` Tom Worster
2018-01-10 20:44 ` Timofey Titovets
2018-01-11 13:00 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-11 8:51 ` Duncan
2018-01-10 4:38 ` Duncan
2018-01-10 12:41 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-11 20:12 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2018-01-10 21:37 ` waxhead
2018-01-11 12:50 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-11 19:56 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2018-01-12 18:24 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-12 19:26 ` Tom Worster
2018-01-12 19:43 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-13 22:09 ` Chris Murphy [this message]
2018-01-15 13:43 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-15 18:23 ` Tom Worster
2018-01-16 6:45 ` Chris Murphy
2018-01-16 11:02 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2018-01-16 12:57 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-01-08 21:43 Tom Worster
2018-01-08 22:18 ` Hugo Mills
2018-01-09 12:23 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-09 14:16 ` Tom Worster
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