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From: Mark Ridley <mark@backupsystems.co.uk>
To: "linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Samba strict allocate  = yes stops btrfs compression working
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:09:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CE3CE512.3C43A%mark@backupsystems.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <kv74sk$bg9$1@ger.gmane.org>

The speed improvement for dumping large databases through samba with
strict allocate = yes to BTRFS was amazing.  It reduced a 1 hour dump down
to 20 minutes.

On 23/08/2013 09:01, "Roger Binns" <rogerb@rogerbinns.com> wrote:

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>On 22/08/13 07:07, Josef Bacik wrote:
>> Not sure what strict allocate = yes does,
>
>I've worked on SMB servers before and can answer that.  Historically the
>way Windows apps (right back into the 16 bit days) have made sure there is
>space for a file about to be written is to ask the OS to allocate all the
>space for it.  (Unix by default leaves holes making a sparse file.)
>
>For example if a 10MB file is going to be written then an allocation will
>be done of 10MB.  (The exact underlying protocol commands vary, but
>originally were similar to the Unix seek to end and write.)  After that
>seeks and writes are done.  Because the allocation succeeded the app knows
>that it won't get an out of space error.
>
>Separately from that, it turns out that some filesystems do benefit from
>preallocating the file to the expected size, and then writing the contents
>in dribs and drabs into the allocated space.
>
>Consequently Samba gives you the option of really allocating all the file,
>either for Windows semantics compatibility, or because it results in
>improved performance on the Unix filesystem.
>
>However I can't see it being of any benefit on a COW filesystem like
>btrfs.
>
>Roger
>
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-23  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-22  9:57 Samba strict allocate = yes stops btrfs compression working Mark Ridley
2013-08-22 14:07 ` Josef Bacik
2013-08-22 18:29   ` Kai Krakow
2013-08-22 18:47     ` Josef Bacik
2013-08-23  9:03     ` Mark Ridley
2013-08-23  8:01   ` Roger Binns
2013-08-23  8:20     ` Mark Ridley
2013-08-23 19:35       ` Roger Binns
     [not found]     ` <CE3CD861.3C3F5%mark@backupsystems. co.uk>
2013-08-23  9:08       ` Duncan
2013-08-23  9:14         ` Mark Ridley
2013-08-23 13:43           ` Clemens Eisserer
2013-08-23  9:09     ` Mark Ridley [this message]

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