From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998CFC433FE for ; Wed, 25 May 2022 09:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232992AbiEYJA7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 May 2022 05:00:59 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:44832 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S232453AbiEYJA6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 May 2022 05:00:58 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [IPv6:2607:7c80:54:3::133]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79F1470350 for ; Wed, 25 May 2022 02:00:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=rq3oAyBXrOpACtdx/apZGp0h1vfSvFc7IP7LnmTkpQY=; b=aXDj4Rpf6eipoqz3kkXNDVVJ9L q/pak4lxnInvLfinBMyUb2W13z+6y+P8bIXdo3LWjAkOsF5n2oY6Wk6U2fLFhCMPAj99pXDCwAwIO 2Wome6k58z10G9JPZobgywh3tc/0gNvhlkH+KXQDlLTiiuJ4gW2ecA0LF7KPSjLabBos+wBbclCxM NRZtWCbLeLjaH7p2z6FUCWo9Ese2Dt63ibVuYHNZyuDK7/lV2UxYz+XIfiHpsUGjDS7NYX6B+3Bt6 hG3XICvLeW1FTNLNvFjMuj0r9+ZQO0Lt8zL2DHGicDy4wQ9ZvYB8mjd1ocGT2hNBJksNp3FrnI3Hg RuaCrufQ==; Received: from hch by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1ntmsu-00AVXQ-PE; Wed, 25 May 2022 09:00:52 +0000 Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 02:00:52 -0700 From: Christoph Hellwig To: dsterba@suse.cz, Qu Wenruo , linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH DRAFT] btrfs: RAID56J journal on-disk format draft Message-ID: References: <20220524170234.GW18596@twin.jikos.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20220524170234.GW18596@twin.jikos.cz> X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 07:02:34PM +0200, David Sterba wrote: > Well, that does not sound encouraging. One option discussed in the past > how to fix the write hole was to always do full RMW cycle. Having a "not > fast journal at all" would require a format change and have probably a > comparable performance drop. So maybe I'm just dumb, but what is the problem with only using raid56 for data, forbidding nowcow for it and thus avoiding the problem entirely?