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From: Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org>
To: Marc MERLIN <marc@merlins.org>
Cc: Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net>,
	Andrea Gelmini <andrea.gelmini@gmail.com>,
	Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
	Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>,
	"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for building new 44TB Raid5 array
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 14:10:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yqd9sIhOiuCSg99Z@hungrycats.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220613174640.GL1664812@merlins.org>

On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 10:46:40AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 02:21:07AM +0500, Roman Mamedov wrote:
> > On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 07:52:59 -0700
> > Marc MERLIN <marc@merlins.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 02:30:33PM +0500, Roman Mamedov wrote:
> > > > > 2) echo 0fb96f02-d8da-45ce-aba7-070a1a8420e3 >  /sys/block/bcache64/bcache/attach 
> > > > >    gargamel:/dev# cat /sys/block/md7/bcache/cache_mode
> > > > >    [writethrough] writeback writearound none
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe try LVM Cache this time?
> > >  
> > > Hard to know either way, trading one layer for another, and LVM has
> > > always seemed heavier
> > 
> > I'd suggest to put the LUKS volume onto an LV still (in case you don't), so you
> > can add and remove cache just to see how it works; unlike with bcache, an LVM
> > cache can be added to an existing LV and then removed without a trace, all
> > without having to displace 44 TB of data for that.
> 
> Thanks. I've always felt that LVM was heavyweight and required extra
> steps and tools, so I've been avoiding it, but maybe that wasn't
> rational.
> bcache by the way, you can set it up without a backing device and then
> use it normally without the cache layer. I think it's actually pretty
> similar, but you have to set it up beforehand (just like LVM)

You can trivially convert from lvmcache to plain LV on the fly.  It's a
pretty essential capability for long-term maintenance, since you can't
move or resize the LV while it's cached.

If you have a LV and you want it to be cached with bcache, you can hack
up the LVM configuration after the fact with https://github.com/g2p/blocks


> Marc
> -- 
> "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.
>  
> Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/                       | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-13 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-11  4:51 Suggestions for building new 44TB Raid5 array Marc MERLIN
2022-06-11  9:30 ` Roman Mamedov
     [not found]   ` <CAK-xaQYc1PufsvksqP77HMe4ZVTkWuRDn2C3P-iMTQzrbQPLGQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-06-11 14:52     ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-11 17:54       ` Roman Mamedov
2022-06-12 17:31         ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-12 21:21       ` Roman Mamedov
2022-06-13 17:46         ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-13 18:06           ` Roman Mamedov
2022-06-14  4:51             ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-13 18:10           ` Zygo Blaxell [this message]
2022-06-13 18:13         ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-13 18:29           ` Roman Mamedov
2022-06-13 20:08           ` Zygo Blaxell
2022-06-14  6:36             ` Torbjörn Jansson
2022-06-20 20:37       ` Andrea Gelmini
2022-06-21  5:26         ` Zygo Blaxell
2022-07-06  9:09           ` Andrea Gelmini
2022-06-11 23:44 ` Zygo Blaxell
2022-06-14 11:03 ` ronnie sahlberg
     [not found] ` <5e1733e6-471e-e7cb-9588-3280e659bfc2@aqueos.com>
2022-06-20 15:01   ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-20 15:52     ` Ghislain Adnet
2022-06-20 16:27       ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-20 17:02     ` Andrei Borzenkov
2022-06-20 17:26       ` Marc MERLIN

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