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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] fanotify support for btrfs sub-volumes
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 06:25:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZT+uxSEh+nTZ2DEY@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231027131726.GA2915471@perftesting>

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 09:17:26AM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> We have this same discussion every time, and every time you stop responding
> after I point out the problems with it.

I'm not sure why you think I stop responding when the action item is not
for me.

> A per-subvolume vfsmount means that /proc/mounts /proc/$PID/mountinfo becomes
> insanely dumb.  I've got millions of machines in this fleet with thousands of
> subvolumes.  One of our workloads fires up several containers per task and runs
> multiple tasks per machine, so on the order of 10-20k subvolumes.

If you do not expose them in /proc/mounts and friends you don't have
any way to show where the mount point or whatever barrier you want
between different st_dev/fsid/etc is.  And you need that.

I've not seen any good alternative that keeps the invariant and doesn't
break things.  If you think there is one please explain it, but no,
adding new fields so that new software can see how we've broken all
the old software is not the answer.

A (not really) great partial answer would be to stop parsing the
text mount information so much, at least for your workloads that
definitively are little on the extreme side.  I think Miklos has been
working on interface that could be useful for that.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-30 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 13:50 [PATCH 0/3] fanotify support for btrfs sub-volumes Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 13:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs: define a new super operation to get fsid Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 13:50 ` [PATCH 2/3] btrfs: implement " Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 13:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] fanotify: support reporting events with fid on btrfs sub-volumes Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 15:34 ` [PATCH 0/3] fanotify support for " Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-25 17:04   ` Jan Kara
2023-10-27  5:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-27 10:58       ` Jan Kara
2023-10-25 21:06   ` Josef Bacik
2023-10-25 23:02     ` Qu Wenruo
2023-10-26  5:49       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-27  5:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <20231027131726.GA2915471@perftesting>
2023-10-28  5:57         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-30 13:25         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2023-10-31 12:14           ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-31 12:22             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-31 12:50               ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-31 17:06                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-01  0:03                   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-03 14:21                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-01  8:16                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-01  8:41                     ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-01  9:52                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-02  5:13                         ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-02  8:53                           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-02  9:48                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-02 12:34                             ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-02 17:07                               ` David Sterba
2023-11-02 20:32                                 ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-03  6:56                                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-03 13:52                                   ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-02 11:07                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-03 14:28                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-03 15:47                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06  7:53                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06  8:18                                   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-06  9:56                                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:25                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 10:03                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 10:41                                     ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-06 10:59                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:30                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 13:05                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 17:10                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-07  8:58                                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08  7:56                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  8:09                                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08  8:12                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  8:22                                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08 14:07                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08 15:57                                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:29                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 13:47                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 17:13                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 22:42                                           ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-07  9:06                                             ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08  7:52                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  8:27                                                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08 14:08                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08 16:16                                                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08 16:20                                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09  6:55                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-09  9:07                                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 14:41                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-10  9:33                                                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-10 10:31                                                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-09  6:53                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  7:51                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08 11:08                                               ` Jan Kara
2023-11-08 14:11                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06  9:03                                 ` Jan Kara
2023-11-06  9:52                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:22                                     ` Jan Kara
2023-11-03 14:23                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-03 14:22                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-25 17:17 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 18:02   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-26 12:17     ` Jan Kara
2023-10-26 12:36       ` Amir Goldstein

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