From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
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Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Peter Morreale <pmorreale@novell.com>,
Sven Dietrich <SDietrich@novell.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v7][RFC]: mutex: implement adaptive spinning
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 08:09:07 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0901090759420.6528@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090109133710.GB31845@elte.hu>
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> -static inline int constant_test_bit(int nr, const volatile unsigned long *addr)
> +static __asm_inline int
> +constant_test_bit(int nr, const volatile unsigned long *addr)
> {
> return ((1UL << (nr % BITS_PER_LONG)) &
> (((unsigned long *)addr)[nr / BITS_PER_LONG])) != 0;
Thios makes absolutely no sense.
It's called "__always_inline", not __asm_inline.
Why add a new nonsensical annotations like that?
Also, the very fact that gcc gets that function wrong WHEN 'nr' IS
CONSTANT (which is when it is called) just shows what kind of crap gcc is!
Ingo, the fact is, I care about size, but I care about debuggability and
sanity more. I don't care one _whit_ about 3% size differences, if they
are insane and cause idiotic per-compiler differences.
And you haven't done any interesting analysis per-file etc. It shoul be
almost _trivial_ to do CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING on/off tests for the whole
tree, and then comparing sizes of individual object files, and see if we
find some obvious _bug_ where we just inline too much.
In fact, we shouldn't even do that - we should try to find a mode where
gcc simply refuses to inline at all, and compare that to one where it
_only_ inlines the things we ask it to. Because that's the more relevant
test. The problem with gcc inlining is actually two-fold:
- gcc doesn't inline things we ask for
Here the sub-problem is that we ask for this too much, but see above on
how to figure -that- out!
- gcc _does_ inline things that we haven't marked at all, causing too
much stack-space to be used, and causing debugging problems.
And here the problem is that gcc should damn well not do that, at least
not as aggressively as it does!
IT DOES NOT MATTER if something is called in just one place and inlining
makes things smaller! If it's not a clear performance win (and it almost
never is, unless the function is really small), the inlining of especially
functions that aren't even hot in the cache is ONLY a negative thing.
Linus
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2008-12-31 11:28 Btrfs for mainline Chris Mason
2008-12-31 18:45 ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-31 23:19 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-02 16:37 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2009-01-02 18:06 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-02 19:38 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-03 9:44 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2009-01-05 14:14 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-05 16:43 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2009-01-05 10:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 13:21 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-05 14:39 ` generic pagecache to block mapping layer (was Re: Btrfs for mainline) Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 16:37 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-05 17:10 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-06 17:20 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-02 19:05 ` Btrfs for mainline Andi Kleen
2009-01-02 19:32 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-02 21:01 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-02 21:35 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-02 22:26 ` Roland Dreier
2009-01-04 13:28 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-01-04 15:56 ` Ed Tomlinson
2009-01-05 10:07 ` Chris Samuel
2009-01-05 13:18 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-05 16:33 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-01-06 22:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-03 19:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-03 19:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-03 20:17 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-04 21:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-01-05 14:01 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-03 21:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-04 18:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-04 18:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-05 14:47 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-05 16:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-05 16:30 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-07 13:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07 13:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-07 14:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-06 11:40 ` [PATCH][RFC]: mutex: adaptive spin Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-06 12:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-06 12:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-06 15:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-06 13:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-01-06 13:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-06 13:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-06 14:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-01-06 21:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-01-06 21:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-06 21:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 22:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-06 22:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 22:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-06 22:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 23:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 23:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-07 0:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 23:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 12:03 ` [PATCH -v4][RFC]: mutex: implement adaptive spinning Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 14:50 ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-01-07 14:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 15:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-07 15:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-07 15:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 16:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 16:57 ` [PATCH -v5][RFC]: " Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 20:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-07 20:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 21:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-07 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 21:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07 21:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-07 21:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07 21:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 21:39 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-07 22:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-01-07 22:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07 22:51 ` Peter W. Morreale
2009-01-07 23:14 ` Peter W. Morreale
2009-01-07 22:56 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-01-07 23:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-07 23:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 23:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-07 23:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-07 23:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 3:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-01-08 7:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 23:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 3:27 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-01-08 3:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-08 4:00 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-01-07 23:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-01-07 21:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-07 21:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 21:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 22:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 23:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 9:58 ` [PATCH -v6][RFC]: " Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-08 14:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-08 14:33 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-01-08 14:46 ` [PATCH -v7][RFC]: " Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-08 15:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-08 15:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-08 15:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-08 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-08 15:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-08 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 16:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 17:08 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-08 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-08 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 18:03 ` Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.1.10.0901081300370.24688@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
2009-01-08 18:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-08 19:17 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-08 19:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-08 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 18:27 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-08 19:02 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-08 19:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 19:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-09 17:40 ` Jiri Kosina
2009-01-09 9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-10 23:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-01-08 19:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 20:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-09 10:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-09 15:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-09 15:11 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-09 15:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-09 16:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-09 16:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 16:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-09 18:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-09 18:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 18:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-08 18:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 3:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 4:59 ` David Miller
2009-01-09 5:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 13:00 ` [patch] measurements, numbers about CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING=y impact Ingo Molnar
2009-01-09 14:03 ` jim owens
2009-01-09 15:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-09 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 19:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-10 8:55 ` Chris Samuel
2009-01-09 20:17 ` Nicholas Miell
2009-01-09 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 23:28 ` Nicholas Miell
2009-01-10 0:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-10 0:37 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-10 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-10 1:08 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-10 2:12 ` Nicholas Miell
2009-01-10 4:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-10 6:44 ` Nicholas Miell
2009-01-09 20:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-09 16:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 16:47 ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-01-09 16:46 ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-01-09 16:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 17:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-09 17:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 17:32 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 17:20 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 17:46 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 17:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-09 17:47 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 17:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-09 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 18:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 18:19 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 18:59 ` Richard Guenther
2009-01-09 19:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 19:21 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 19:10 ` Richard Guenther
2009-01-09 19:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-09 19:40 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 19:32 ` Richard Guenther
2009-01-09 19:09 ` Richard Guenther
2009-01-09 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 20:14 ` Richard Guenther
2009-01-09 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 20:37 ` Richard Guenther
2009-01-09 21:23 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-09 21:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-09 20:58 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-09 17:41 ` Dirk Hohndel
2009-01-09 18:02 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 18:55 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 19:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 19:35 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 19:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-09 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-09 19:52 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-09 22:07 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-09 22:44 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <20090109224410.GQ26290@one.firstfloor.org>
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2009-01-11 22:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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2009-01-12 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0901121128080.6528@localhost.localdomain>
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2009-01-13 1:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-19 0:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-19 6:22 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-19 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-20 0:51 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-20 12:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 19:49 ` David Woodhouse
2009-01-20 21:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-20 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-20 22:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-21 1:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-21 8:54 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-21 8:52 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 9:20 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-21 9:25 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-21 9:54 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-21 10:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-20 4:20 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-20 17:43 ` Miguel F Mascarenhas Sousa Filipe
2009-01-12 19:55 ` Bernd Schmidt
2009-01-12 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-12 7:59 ` Hard to debug kernel issues (was Re: [PATCH -v7][RFC]: mutex: implement adaptive spinning) Chris Samuel
2009-01-10 6:44 ` [PATCH -v7][RFC]: mutex: implement adaptive spinning H. Peter Anvin
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2009-01-09 21:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-09 21:15 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-08 19:59 ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-09 1:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
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2009-01-09 6:57 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 6:00 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-09 6:58 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-09 13:05 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-08 17:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 22:54 ` [PATCH -v5][RFC]: " Dave Kleikamp
2009-01-07 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 23:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-07 23:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-08 2:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-08 2:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-08 2:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-01-08 6:52 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-08 14:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-08 14:45 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-07 21:37 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-07 21:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-07 17:20 ` [PATCH -v4][RFC]: " Chris Mason
2009-01-07 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-07 18:00 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-07 3:57 ` [PATCH][RFC]: mutex: adaptive spin Lai Jiangshan
2009-01-07 6:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-01-07 7:34 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-01-07 13:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-01-06 22:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-01-06 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 16:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-01-06 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 16:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-01-06 17:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-06 16:54 ` Ingo Molnar
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2009-01-06 16:19 ` Chris Mason
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2009-01-06 13:29 ` Nick Piggin
2009-01-06 16:23 ` Chris Mason
2009-01-06 17:08 ` Andrew Morton
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