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From: Coly Li <colyli@suse.de>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Phillip Lougher <phillip@squashfs.org.uk>,
	linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sourceforge.net, ntfs3@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Readahead for compressed data
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 14:15:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b11bb34b-8fdf-b6ed-b305-e7145f2a7ab2@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXHK5HrQpJu9oy8w@casper.infradead.org>

On 10/22/21 4:17 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> As far as I can tell, the following filesystems support compressed data:
>
> bcachefs, btrfs, erofs, ntfs, squashfs, zisofs

Hi Matthew,

There is a new bcachefs mailing list linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org for 
bcachefs. I add it in Cc in this reply email.

Just FYI for you and other receivers.

Thanks.

Coly Li


>
> I'd like to make it easier and more efficient for filesystems to
> implement compressed data.  There are a lot of approaches in use today,
> but none of them seem quite right to me.  I'm going to lay out a few
> design considerations next and then propose a solution.  Feel free to
> tell me I've got the constraints wrong, or suggest alternative solutions.
>
> When we call ->readahead from the VFS, the VFS has decided which pages
> are going to be the most useful to bring in, but it doesn't know how
> pages are bundled together into blocks.  As I've learned from talking to
> Gao Xiang, sometimes the filesystem doesn't know either, so this isn't
> something we can teach the VFS.
>
> We (David) added readahead_expand() recently to let the filesystem
> opportunistically add pages to the page cache "around" the area requested
> by the VFS.  That reduces the number of times the filesystem has to
> decompress the same block.  But it can fail (due to memory allocation
> failures or pages already being present in the cache).  So filesystems
> still have to implement some kind of fallback.
>
> For many (all?) compression algorithms (all?) the data must be mapped at
> all times.  Calling kmap() and kunmap() would be an intolerable overhead.
> At the same time, we cannot write to a page in the page cache which is
> marked Uptodate.  It might be mapped into userspace, or a read() be in
> progress against it.  For writable filesystems, it might even be dirty!
> As far as I know, no compression algorithm supports "holes", implying
> that we must allocate memory which is then discarded.
>
> To me, this calls for a vmap() based approach.  So I'm thinking
> something like ...
>
> void *readahead_get_block(struct readahead_control *ractl, loff_t start,
> 			size_t len);
> void readahead_put_block(struct readahead_control *ractl, void *addr,
> 			bool success);
>
> Once you've figured out which bytes this encrypted block expands to, you
> call readahead_get_block(), specifying the offset in the file and length
> and get back a pointer.  When you're done decompressing that block of
> the file, you get rid of it again.
>
> It's the job of readahead_get_block() to allocate additional pages
> into the page cache or temporary pages.  readahead_put_block() will
> mark page cache pages as Uptodate if 'success' is true, and unlock
> them.  It'll free any temporary pages.
>
> Thoughts?  Anyone want to be the guinea pig?  ;-)


      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-29  6:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-21 20:17 Readahead for compressed data Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-22  0:22 ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22  1:04 ` Phillip Susi
2021-10-22  1:28   ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22  1:39     ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22  2:09   ` Phillip Lougher
2021-10-22  2:31     ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22  8:41   ` Jan Kara
2021-10-22  9:11     ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22  9:22       ` Qu Wenruo
2021-10-22  9:39         ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22  9:54           ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22 10:40             ` Qu Wenruo
2021-10-25 18:59     ` Phillip Susi
2021-10-22  4:36 ` Phillip Lougher
2021-10-29  6:15 ` Coly Li [this message]

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