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From: Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@inwind.it>
To: Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org>
Cc: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Status of RAID5/6
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 10:16:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b3214c3e-cf0c-4070-acbb-892a449476f8@inwind.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180331074320.GF2446@hungrycats.org>

On 03/31/2018 09:43 AM, Zygo Blaxell wrote:
>> The key is that if a data write is interrupted, all the transaction
>> is interrupted and aborted. And due to the COW nature of btrfs, the
>> "old state" is restored at the next reboot.

> This is not presently true with raid56 and btrfs.  RAID56 on btrfs uses
> RMW operations which are not COW and don't provide any data integrity
> guarantee.  Old data (i.e. data from very old transactions that are not
> part of the currently written transaction) can be destroyed by this.

Could you elaborate a bit ?

Generally speaking, updating a part of a stripe require a RMW cycle, because
- you need to read all data stripe (with parity in case of a problem)
- then you should write
	- the new data
	- the new parity (calculated on the basis of the first read, and the new data)

However the "old" data should be untouched; or you are saying that the "old" data is rewritten with the same data ? 

BR
G.Baroncelli


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-31  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-21 16:50 Status of RAID5/6 Menion
2018-03-21 17:24 ` Liu Bo
2018-03-21 20:02   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2018-03-22 12:01     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-03-29 21:50     ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-03-30  7:21       ` Menion
2018-03-31  4:53         ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-03-30 16:14       ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2018-03-31  5:03         ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-03-31  6:57           ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2018-03-31  7:43             ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-03-31  8:16               ` Goffredo Baroncelli [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <28a574db-0f74-b12c-ab5f-400205fd80c8@gmail.com>
2018-03-31 14:40                   ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-03-31 22:34             ` Chris Murphy
2018-04-01  3:45               ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-04-01 20:51                 ` Chris Murphy
2018-04-01 21:11                   ` Chris Murphy
2018-04-02  5:45                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-04-02 15:18                       ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2018-04-02 15:49                         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-04-02 22:23                           ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-04-03  0:31                             ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-04-03 17:03                               ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2018-04-03 22:57                                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-04-04  5:15                                   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2018-04-04  6:01                                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-04-04 21:31                                       ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2018-04-04 22:38                                         ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-04-04  3:08                                 ` Chris Murphy
2018-04-04  6:20                                   ` Zygo Blaxell
2018-03-21 20:27   ` Menion
2018-03-22 21:13   ` waxhead

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