From: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Timofey Titovets <nefelim4ag@gmail.com>,
Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
Cc: Marat Khalili <mkh@rqc.ru>, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>,
linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: qemu-kvm VM died during partial raid1 problems of btrfs
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 08:55:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b925e250-0507-55b8-c6da-47d8a5266c9f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGqmi74UxBRj6pPJ2aEon-raAq46R=29sef_f_wWWGQY1WpwDA@mail.gmail.com>
On 2017-09-12 20:52, Timofey Titovets wrote:
> No, no, no, no...
> No new ioctl, no change in fallocate.
> Fisrt: VM can do punch hole, if you use qemu -> qemu know how to do it.
> Windows Guest also know how to do it.
>
> Different Hypervisor? -> google -> Make issue to support, all
> Linux/Windows/Mac OS support holes in files.
Not everybody who uses sparse files is using virtual machines.
>
> No new code, no new strange stuff to fix not broken things.
Um, the fallocate PUNCH_HOLE mode _is_ broken. There's a race condition
that can trivially cause data loss.
>
> You want replace zeroes? EXTENT_SAME can do that.
But only on a small number of filesystems, and it requires extra work
that shouldn't be necessary.
>
> truncate -s 4M test_hole
> dd if=/dev/zero of=./test_zero bs=4M
>
> duperemove -vhrd ./test_hole ./test_zero
And performance for this approach is absolute shit compared to fallocate -d.
Actual numbers, using a 4G test file (which is still small for what
you're talking about) and a 4M hole file:
fallocate -d: 0.19 user, 0.85 system, 1.26 real
duperemove -vhrd: 0.75 user, 137.70 system, 144.80 real
So, for a 4G file, it took duperemove (and the EXTENT_SAME ioctl) 114.92
times as long to achieve the same net effect. From a practical
perspective, this isn't viable for regular usage just because of how
long it takes. Most of that overhead is that the EXTENT_SAME ioctl does
a byte-by-byte comparison of the ranges to make sure they match, but
that isn't strictly necessary to avoid this race condition. All that's
actually needed is determining if there is outstanding I/O on that
region, and if so, some special handling prior to freezing the region is
needed.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-13 12:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-12 8:02 qemu-kvm VM died during partial raid1 problems of btrfs Marat Khalili
2017-09-12 8:25 ` Timofey Titovets
2017-09-12 8:42 ` Marat Khalili
2017-09-12 9:21 ` Timofey Titovets
2017-09-12 9:29 ` Marat Khalili
2017-09-12 9:35 ` Timofey Titovets
2017-09-12 10:01 ` Duncan
2017-09-12 10:32 ` Adam Borowski
2017-09-12 10:39 ` Marat Khalili
2017-09-12 11:01 ` Timofey Titovets
2017-09-12 11:12 ` Adam Borowski
2017-09-12 11:17 ` Timofey Titovets
2017-09-12 11:26 ` Marat Khalili
2017-09-12 17:21 ` Adam Borowski
2017-09-12 17:36 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-12 18:43 ` Adam Borowski
2017-09-12 18:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-12 19:12 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-12 19:11 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-12 20:00 ` Adam Borowski
2017-09-12 20:12 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-12 21:13 ` Adam Borowski
2017-09-13 0:52 ` Timofey Titovets
2017-09-13 12:55 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn [this message]
2017-09-13 12:21 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-18 11:53 ` Adam Borowski
2017-09-13 14:47 ` Martin Raiber
2017-09-13 15:25 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-12 11:09 ` Roman Mamedov
2017-09-13 13:23 ` Chris Murphy
2017-09-13 14:15 ` Marat Khalili
2017-09-13 17:52 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
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