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From: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: About using on-stack fsdata pointer for write_begin() and write_end() callbacks
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 18:06:57 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5dca4eb-2294-4d24-9e36-dac8be852622@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZzGbioLSB3m7ozq1@infradead.org>



在 2024/11/11 16:22, Christoph Hellwig 写道:
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 02:57:06PM +1030, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Recently I'm working on migrating btrfs_buffered_write() to utilize
>> write_begin() and write_end() callbacks.
> 
> Why?  They aren't exactly efficient, and it's just going to create
> more Churn for Goldwyn's iomap work.

So it is not recommended to go the write_begin() and write_end() 
callbacks at all?
Or just not recommended for btrfs?

I know there are limits like those call backs do not support 
IOCB_NOWAIT, and the memory allocation inefficient problem (it should 
only affect ocfs2), but shouldn't we encourage to use the more common 
paths where all other fses go?

> 
>> Currently only the following filesystems really utilizing that pointer:
>>
>> - bcachefs
>>    Which is a structure of 24 bytes without any extra pointer.
> 
> And as pointed out last time willy and I did go through the users of
> write_begin/end this is just dead code that is never called.
> 
>> Thus I'm wondering should we make perform_generic_write() to accept a
>> *fsdata pointer, other than making write_begin() to allocate one.
>> So that we only need to allocate the memory (or use the on-stack one)
>> once per write, other than once per folio.
> 
> And that scheme was one of my suggestions back then, together with
> removing write_begin/end from address_space_operations because they
> aren't operations called by MM/pagecache code, but just callbacks
> provided by the file system to perform_generic_write.
>

Mind to point me to the old discussion thread? I'd like to know why we 
didn't go that path.

Thanks,
Qu


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-11  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-11  4:27 About using on-stack fsdata pointer for write_begin() and write_end() callbacks Qu Wenruo
2024-11-11  5:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-11  7:36   ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2024-11-12  5:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-12  5:31       ` Qu Wenruo
2024-11-12  5:41         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-12  6:03           ` Qu Wenruo
2024-11-12  6:06             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-12  6:13               ` Qu Wenruo

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