From: Phillip Lougher <phillip@squashfs.org.uk>
To: Phillip Susi <phill@thesusis.net>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sourceforge.net, ntfs3@lists.linux.dev,
linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: Readahead for compressed data
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 03:09:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea03d018-b9ef-9eed-c382-e1a3db7e4e5f@squashfs.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tuh9n9w2.fsf@vps.thesusis.net>
On 22/10/2021 02:04, Phillip Susi wrote:
>
> Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> writes:
>
>> As far as I can tell, the following filesystems support compressed data:
>>
>> bcachefs, btrfs, erofs, ntfs, squashfs, zisofs
>>
>> I'd like to make it easier and more efficient for filesystems to
>> implement compressed data. There are a lot of approaches in use today,
>> but none of them seem quite right to me. I'm going to lay out a few
>> design considerations next and then propose a solution. Feel free to
>> tell me I've got the constraints wrong, or suggest alternative solutions.
>>
>> When we call ->readahead from the VFS, the VFS has decided which pages
>> are going to be the most useful to bring in, but it doesn't know how
>> pages are bundled together into blocks. As I've learned from talking to
>> Gao Xiang, sometimes the filesystem doesn't know either, so this isn't
>> something we can teach the VFS.
>>
>> We (David) added readahead_expand() recently to let the filesystem
>> opportunistically add pages to the page cache "around" the area requested
>> by the VFS. That reduces the number of times the filesystem has to
>> decompress the same block. But it can fail (due to memory allocation
>> failures or pages already being present in the cache). So filesystems
>> still have to implement some kind of fallback.
>
> Wouldn't it be better to keep the *compressed* data in the cache and
> decompress it multiple times if needed rather than decompress it once
> and cache the decompressed data? You would use more CPU time
> decompressing multiple times
There is a fairly obvious problem here. A malicious attacker could
"trick" the filesystem into endlessly decompressing the same blocks,
which because the compressed data is cached, could cause it to use
all CPU, and cause a DOS attack. Caching the uncompressed data prevents
these decompression attacks from occurring so easily.
Phillip
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-22 2:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-21 20:17 Readahead for compressed data Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-22 0:22 ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22 1:04 ` Phillip Susi
2021-10-22 1:28 ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22 1:39 ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22 2:09 ` Phillip Lougher [this message]
2021-10-22 2:31 ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22 8:41 ` Jan Kara
2021-10-22 9:11 ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22 9:22 ` Qu Wenruo
2021-10-22 9:39 ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22 9:54 ` Gao Xiang
2021-10-22 10:40 ` Qu Wenruo
2021-10-25 18:59 ` Phillip Susi
2021-10-22 4:36 ` Phillip Lougher
2021-10-29 6:15 ` Coly Li
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