From: Gabriel de Perthuis <g2p.code@gmail.com>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Possible to dedpulicate read-only snapshots for space-efficient backups
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 22:07:39 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <kmbtvb$all$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 64hi5a-9rq.ln1@hurikhan.ath.cx
> Do you plan to support deduplication on a finer grained basis than file
> level? As an example, in the end it could be interesting to deduplicate 1M
> blocks of huge files. Backups of VM images come to my mind as a good
> candidate. While my current backup script[1] takes care of this by using
> "rsync --inplace" it won't consider files moved between two backup cycles.
> This is the main purpose I'm using bedup for on my backup drive.
>
> Maybe you could define another cutoff value to consider huge files for
> block-level deduplication?
I'm considering deduplicating aligned blocks of large files sharing the
same size (VMs with the same baseline. Those would ideally come
pre-cowed, but rsync or scp could have broken that).
It sounds simple, and was sort-of prompted by the new syscall taking
short ranges, but it is tricky figuring out a sane heuristic (when to
hash, when to bail, when to submit without comparing, what should be the
source in the last case), and it's not something I have an immediate
need for. It is also possible to use 9p (with standard cow and/or
small-file dedup) and trade a bit of configuration for much more
space-efficient VMs.
Finer-grained tracking of which ranges have changed, and maybe some
caching of range hashes, would be a good first step before doing any
crazy large-file heuristics. The hash caching would actually benefit
all use cases.
> Regards,
> Kai
>
> [1]: https://gist.github.com/kakra/5520370
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-07 22:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-05 10:07 Possible to dedpulicate read-only snapshots for space-efficient backups Kai Krakow
2013-05-05 12:55 ` Gabriel de Perthuis
2013-05-05 17:22 ` Kai Krakow
2013-05-07 22:07 ` Gabriel de Perthuis [this message]
2013-05-07 23:04 ` Kai Krakow
2013-05-07 23:22 ` Kai Krakow
2013-05-07 23:35 ` Possible to deduplicate " Gabriel de Perthuis
2013-05-06 6:15 ` Possible to dedpulicate " Jan Schmidt
2013-05-06 7:44 ` Kai Krakow
2013-05-06 14:35 ` james northrup
2013-05-06 20:48 ` Kai Krakow
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