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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: scrub implies failing drive - smartctl blissfully unaware
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:16:53 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan$14d66$beee78b5$e18f9ce1$e04b1493@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 546B48A0.1070206@swiftspirit.co.za

Brendan Hide posted on Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:24:48 +0200 as excerpted:

> In this case, yup, its directly to the motherboard chipset's built-in
> ports. This is a very old desktop, and the other 3 disks don't have any
> issues. I'm checking out the alternative pointed out by Austin.
> 
> SATA-relevant lspci output:
> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family)
> SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)

I guess your definition of _very_ old desktop, and mine, are _very_ 
different.

* A quick check of wikipedia says the ICH10 wasn't even 
/introduced/ until 2008 (the wiki link for the 82801jo/do points to an 
Intel page, which says it was launched Q3-2008), and it would have been 
some time after that, likely 2009, that you actually purchased the 
machine.

2009 is five years ago, middle-aged yes, arguably old, but _very_ old, 
not so much in this day and age of longer system replace cycles.

* It has SATA, not IDE/PATA.

* It was PCIE 1.1, not PCI-X or PCI and AGP, and DEFINITELY not ISA bus, 
with or without VLB!

* It has USB 2.0 ports, not USB 1.1, and not only serial/parallel/ps2, 
and DEFINITELY not an AT keyboard.

* It has Gigabit Ethernet, not simply Fast Ethernet or just Ethernet, and 
DEFINITELY Ethernet not token-ring.

* It already has Intel Virtualization technology and HD audio instead of 
AC97 or earlier.

Now I can certainly imagine and "old" desktop having most of these, but 
you said _very_ old, not simply old, and _very_ old to me would mean PATA/
USB-1/AGP/PCI/FastEthernet with AC97 audio or earlier and no 
virtualization.  64-bit would be questionable as well.


FWIW, I've been playing minitube/youtube C64 music the last few days.  
Martin Galway, etc.  Now C64 really _IS_ _very_ old!

Also FWIW, "only" a couple years ago now (well, about three,
time flies!), my old 2003 vintage original 3-digit Opteron based mobo 
died due to bulging/burst capacitors, after serving me 8 years.  I was 
shooting for a full decade but didn't quite make it...

So indeed, 2009 vintage system, five years, definitely not _very_ old, 
arguably not even "old", more like middle-aged. =:^)

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman


  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-18 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1XqYMg-0000YI-8y@watricky.valid.co.za>
2014-11-18  7:29 ` scrub implies failing drive - smartctl blissfully unaware Brendan Hide
2014-11-18  7:36   ` Roman Mamedov
2014-11-18 13:24     ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-18 15:16       ` Duncan [this message]
2014-11-18 12:08   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-11-18 13:25     ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-18 16:02     ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-18 15:35   ` Marc MERLIN
2014-11-18 16:04     ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-18 16:11       ` Marc MERLIN
2014-11-18 16:26         ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-18 18:57     ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-18 20:58       ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19  2:40         ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-19 15:11           ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20  0:05             ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-25 21:34               ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-25 23:13                 ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-26  1:53                   ` Rich Freeman
2014-12-01 19:10                   ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-28 15:02                 ` Patrik Lundquist
2014-11-19  2:46         ` Duncan
2014-11-19 16:07           ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19 21:05             ` Robert White
2014-11-19 21:47               ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19 22:25                 ` Robert White
2014-11-20 20:26                   ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20 22:45                     ` Robert White
2014-11-21 15:11                       ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-21 21:12                         ` Robert White
2014-11-21 21:41                           ` Robert White
2014-11-22 22:06                           ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-19 22:33                 ` Robert White
2014-11-20 20:34                   ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20 23:08                     ` Robert White
2014-11-21 15:27                       ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-20  0:25               ` Duncan
2014-11-20  2:08                 ` Robert White
2014-11-19 23:59             ` Duncan
2014-11-25 22:14               ` Phillip Susi
2014-11-28 15:55                 ` Patrik Lundquist
2014-11-21  4:58   ` Zygo Blaxell
2014-11-21  7:05     ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-21 12:55       ` Ian Armstrong
2014-11-21 17:45         ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-22  7:18           ` Ian Armstrong
2014-11-21 17:42       ` Zygo Blaxell
2014-11-21 18:06         ` Chris Murphy
2014-11-22  2:25           ` Zygo Blaxell

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