From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: btrfs filesystem keeps allocating new chunks for no apparent reason
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 15:41:15 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan$2dac6$9a9c194e$57b6cef4$3686a053@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5758A5F6.4060400@mendix.com
Hans van Kranenburg posted on Thu, 09 Jun 2016 01:10:46 +0200 as
excerpted:
> The next question is what files these extents belong to. To find out, I
> need to open up the extent items I get back and follow a backreference
> to an inode object. Might do that tomorrow, fun.
>
> To be honest, I suspect /var/log and/or the file storage of mailman to
> be the cause of the fragmentation, since there's logging from postfix,
> mailman and nginx going on all day long in a slow but steady tempo.
> While using btrfs for a number of use cases at work now, we normally
> don't use it for the root filesystem. And the cases where it's used as
> root filesystem don't do much logging or mail.
FWIW, that's one reason I have a dedicated partition (and filesystem) for
logs, here. (The other reason is that should something go runaway log-
spewing, I get a warning much sooner when my log filesystem fills up, not
much later, with much worse implications, when the main filesystem fills
up!)
> And no, autodefrag is not in the mount options currently. Would that be
> helpful in this case?
It should be helpful, yes. Be aware that autodefrag works best with
smaller (sub-half-gig) files, however, and that it used to cause
performance issues with larger database and VM files, in particular.
There used to be a warning on the wiki about that, that was recently
removed, so apparently it's not the issue that it was, but you might wish
to monitor any databases or VMs with gig-plus files to see if it's going
to be a performance issue, once you turn on autodefrag.
The other issue with autodefrag is that if it hasn't been on and things
are heavily fragmented, it can at first drive down performance as it
rewrites all these heavily fragmented files, until it catches up and is
mostly dealing only with the normal refragmentation load. Of course the
best way around that is to run autodefrag from the first time you mount
the filesystem and start writing to it, so it never gets overly
fragmented in the first place. For a currently in-use and highly
fragmented filesystem, you have two choices, either backup and do a fresh
mkfs.btrfs so you can start with a clean filesystem and autodefrag from
the beginning, or doing manual defrag.
However, be aware that if you have snapshots locking down the old extents
in their fragmented form, a manual defrag will copy the data to new
extents without releasing the old ones as they're locked in place by the
snapshots, thus using additional space. Worse, if the filesystem is
already heavily fragmented and snapshots are locking most of those
fragments in place, defrag likely won't help a lot, because the free
space as well will be heavily fragmented. So starting off with a clean
and new filesystem and using autodefrag from the beginning really is your
best bet.
--
Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-09 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-06 21:28 btrfs filesystem keeps allocating new chunks for no apparent reason Hans van Kranenburg
2016-05-30 11:07 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2016-05-30 19:55 ` Duncan
2016-05-30 21:18 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2016-05-30 21:55 ` Duncan
2016-05-31 1:36 ` Qu Wenruo
2016-06-08 23:10 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2016-06-09 8:52 ` Marc Haber
2016-06-09 10:37 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2016-06-09 15:41 ` Duncan [this message]
2016-06-10 17:07 ` Henk Slager
2016-06-11 15:23 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2016-06-09 18:07 ` Chris Murphy
2017-04-07 21:25 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2017-04-07 23:56 ` Peter Grandi
2017-04-08 7:09 ` Duncan
2017-04-08 11:16 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2017-04-08 11:35 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2017-04-09 23:23 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2017-04-10 12:39 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-04-10 12:45 ` Kai Krakow
2017-04-10 12:51 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-04-10 16:53 ` Kai Krakow
[not found] ` <20170410184444.08ced097@jupiter.sol.local>
2017-04-10 16:54 ` Kai Krakow
2017-04-10 17:13 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-04-10 18:18 ` Kai Krakow
2017-04-10 19:43 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-04-10 22:21 ` Adam Borowski
2017-04-11 4:01 ` Kai Krakow
2017-04-11 9:55 ` Adam Borowski
2017-04-11 11:16 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-04-10 23:45 ` Janos Toth F.
2017-04-11 3:56 ` Kai Krakow
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