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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Recommended why to use btrfs for production?
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 19:57:58 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan$3271$1d7da956$393e2ccc$d395c1dd@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAJCQCtR_s6qt_4PXRDu4e78KiaKM+SrTDB6WMw8MzZNuP+B5rA@mail.gmail.com

Chris Murphy posted on Thu, 09 Jun 2016 11:39:23 -0600 as excerpted:

> Yeah but somewhere there's a chunk that's likely affected by two losses,
> with a probability much higher than for conventional raid10 where such a
> loss is very binary: if the loss is a mirrored pair, the whole array and
> filesystem implodes; if the loss does not affect an entire mirrored
> pair, the whole array survives.
> 
> The thing with Btrfs raid 10 is you can't really tell in advance to what
> degree you have loss. It's not a binary condition, it has a gray area
> where a lot of data can still be retrieved, but the instant you hit
> missing data it's a loss, and if you hit missing metadata then the fs
> will either go read only or crash, it just can't continue. So that
> "walking on egg shells" behavior in a 2+ drive loss is really different
> from a conventional raid10 where it's either gonna completely work or
> completely fail.

Yes, thanks, CMurphy.  That's exactly what I was trying to explain. =:^)

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-09 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-03  9:49 Recommended why to use btrfs for production? Martin
2016-06-03  9:53 ` Marc Haber
2016-06-03  9:57   ` Martin
2016-06-03 10:01 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2016-06-03 10:15   ` Martin
2016-06-03 12:55 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-03 13:31   ` Martin
2016-06-03 13:47     ` Julian Taylor
2016-06-03 14:21     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-03 14:39       ` Martin
2016-06-03 19:09       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-06-09  6:16       ` Duncan
2016-06-09 11:38         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-09 17:39           ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-09 19:57             ` Duncan [this message]
2016-06-03 14:05   ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-03 14:11     ` Martin
2016-06-03 15:33       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-04  0:48         ` Nicholas D Steeves
2016-06-04  1:48           ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-06 13:29             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-04  1:34       ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-05 10:45     ` Mladen Milinkovic
2016-06-05 16:33       ` James Johnston
2016-06-05 18:20         ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-06-06  1:47       ` Chris Murphy
2016-06-06  2:40         ` James Johnston
2016-06-06 13:36           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn

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