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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: defragmenting best practice?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 07:54:29 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan$586a1$64c03ba5$a7b0bfe9$cf4fdc64@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1e39d1a1-db3a-1925-2bee-629987b22d3a@gmail.com

Austin S. Hemmelgarn posted on Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:27:00 -0400 as
excerpted:

> The tricky part though is that differing workloads are impacted
> differently by fragmentation.  Using just four generic examples:
> 
> * Mostly sequential write focused workloads (like security recording
> systems) tend to be impacted by free space fragmentation more than data
> fragmentation.  Balancing filesystems used for such workloads is likely
> to give a noticeable improvement, but defragmenting probably won't give
> much.
> * Mostly sequential read focused workloads (like a streaming media
> server)
> tend to be the most impacted by data fragmentation, but aren't generally
> impacted by free space fragmentation.  As a result, defrag will help
> here a lot, but balance won't as much.
> * Mostly random write focused workloads (like most database systems or
> virtual machines) are often impacted by both free space and data
> fragmentation, and are a pathological case for CoW filesystems.  Balance
> and defrag will help here, but they won't help for long.
> * Mostly random read focused workloads (like most non-multimedia desktop
> usage) are not impacted much by either aspect, but if you're on a
> traditional hard drive they can be impacted significantly by how the
> data is spread across the disk.  Balance can help here, but only because
> it improves data locality, not because it compacts free space.

This is a very useful analysis, particularly given the examples.  Maybe 
put it on the wiki under the defrag discussion?  (Assuming something like 
it isn't already there.  I've not looked in awhile.)

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman


  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-14  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-31  7:05 btrfs filesystem defragment -r -- does it affect subvolumes? Ulli Horlacher
2017-09-12 16:28 ` defragmenting best practice? Ulli Horlacher
2017-09-12 17:27   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-14  7:54     ` Duncan [this message]
2017-09-14 12:28       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-14 11:38   ` Kai Krakow
2017-09-14 13:31     ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2017-09-14 15:24       ` Kai Krakow
2017-09-14 15:47         ` Kai Krakow
2017-09-14 17:48         ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2017-09-14 18:53           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-15  2:26             ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2017-09-15 12:23               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-14 20:17           ` Kai Krakow
2017-09-15 10:54           ` Michał Sokołowski
2017-09-15 11:13             ` Peter Grandi
2017-09-15 13:07             ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2017-09-15 14:11               ` Michał Sokołowski
2017-09-15 16:35                 ` Peter Grandi
2017-09-15 17:08                 ` Kai Krakow
2017-09-15 19:10                   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2017-09-20  6:38                     ` Dave
2017-09-20 11:46                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-21 20:10                         ` Kai Krakow
2017-09-21 23:30                           ` Dave
2017-09-21 23:58                           ` Kai Krakow
2017-09-22 11:22                           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-22 20:29                             ` Marc Joliet
2017-09-21 11:09                       ` Duncan
2017-10-31 21:47                         ` Dave
2017-10-31 23:06                           ` Peter Grandi
2017-11-01  0:37                             ` Dave
2017-11-01 12:21                               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-02  1:39                                 ` Dave
2017-11-02 11:07                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-03  2:59                                     ` Dave
2017-11-03  7:12                                       ` Kai Krakow
2017-11-03  5:58                                   ` Marat Khalili
2017-11-03  7:19                                     ` Kai Krakow
2017-11-01 17:48                               ` Peter Grandi
2017-11-02  0:09                                 ` Dave
2017-11-02 11:17                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-02 18:09                                     ` Dave
2017-11-02 18:37                                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-11-02  0:43                                 ` Peter Grandi
2017-11-02 21:16                               ` Kai Krakow
2017-11-03  2:47                                 ` Dave
2017-11-03  7:26                                   ` Kai Krakow
2017-11-03 11:30                                     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
     [not found]                             ` <CAH=dxU47-52-asM5vJ_-qOpEpjZczHw7vQzgi1-TeKm58++zBQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-12-11  5:18                               ` Dave
2017-12-11  6:10                                 ` Timofey Titovets
2017-11-01  7:43                           ` Sean Greenslade
2017-11-01 13:31                           ` Duncan
2017-11-01 23:36                             ` Dave
2017-09-21 19:28                       ` Sean Greenslade
2017-09-20  7:34                     ` Dmitry Kudriavtsev

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