From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44453 "EHLO plane.gmane.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751098AbbJOCKY (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Oct 2015 22:10:24 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXzp-0001LN-IW for linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:10:21 +0200 Received: from ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net ([98.167.165.199]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:10:21 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:10:21 +0200 To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: Re: btrfs says no errors, but booting gives lots of errors Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 02:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8042.1444481164@ccs.covici.com> <56191CC2.9000505@googlemail.com> <11640.1444488108@ccs.covici.com> <561932EF.2090005@bouton.name> <5619385C.7040103@googlemail.com> <16953.1444496102@ccs.covici.com> <56198B7B.90806@bouton.name> <27402.1444518173@ccs.covici.com> <27611.1444518496@ccs.covici.com> <7505.1444566567@ccs.covici.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-btrfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: covici posted on Sun, 11 Oct 2015 08:29:27 -0400 as excerpted: > Thanks, in the ext4 world, I have lvm and lots of things using separate > lvm's. I don't want to go back to partitions, if btrfs is that fragile, > maybe I should waita while yet. Or, I could use lvm and put btrfs on > top of that, but it seems strange to me. Taking the larger picture perspective, I'd suggest that while btrfs arguably isn't "that fragile" if you're willing to work with it, it most definitely is of a status I characterize as "stabilizing, but not yet fully stable or mature", and as such, isn't likely to be the best choice for people who just want "sufficiently stable that I don't have to mess with it or worry about it", particularly if they're also the type that prefer to run "enterprise stable" or "debian stable" grade distros, which are, to put it mildly, not known for the up-to-dateness of the versions of various packages they ship. If that's a description of your comfort zone, then there's a basic incompatibility between your comfort zone and btrfs' current state, and btrfs probably isn't the right choice for you at this point. In which case, ext3/4, reiserfs (my old favorite, which I had very good experience with even with not so reliable hardware), xfs, or possibly zfs if you need the features and are willing to put the money into the hardware it requires for stability, are more mature and arguably appropriate choices. I had in mind to say something about the big-picture like that in an earlier reply, but forgot... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman