* Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
@ 2016-11-30 21:03 Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2016-11-30 23:02 ` Chris Murphy
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG @ 2016-11-30 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Hello,
# btrfs balance start -v -dusage=0 -musage=1 /ssddisk/
Dumping filters: flags 0x7, state 0x0, force is off
DATA (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=0
METADATA (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=1
SYSTEM (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=1
ERROR: error during balancing '/ssddisk/': No space left on device
There may be more info in syslog - try dmesg | tail
# btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
# btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
Overall:
Device size: 500.00GiB
Device allocated: 500.00GiB
Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
Device missing: 0.00B
Used: 305.69GiB
Free (estimated): 185.78GiB (min: 185.78GiB)
Data ratio: 1.00
Metadata ratio: 1.00
Global reserve: 512.00MiB (used: 608.00KiB)
Data,single: Size:483.97GiB, Used:298.18GiB
/dev/vdb1 483.97GiB
Metadata,single: Size:16.00GiB, Used:7.51GiB
/dev/vdb1 16.00GiB
System,single: Size:32.00MiB, Used:144.00KiB
/dev/vdb1 32.00MiB
Unallocated:
/dev/vdb1 1.05MiB
How can i make it balancing again?
Greets,
Stefan
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-11-30 21:03 Metadata balance fails ENOSPC Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
@ 2016-11-30 23:02 ` Chris Murphy
2016-12-01 7:49 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2016-12-01 8:18 ` Duncan
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Chris Murphy @ 2016-11-30 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG; +Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
<s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> # btrfs balance start -v -dusage=0 -musage=1 /ssddisk/
> Dumping filters: flags 0x7, state 0x0, force is off
> DATA (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=0
> METADATA (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=1
> SYSTEM (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=1
> ERROR: error during balancing '/ssddisk/': No space left on device
> There may be more info in syslog - try dmesg | tail
You haven't provided kernel messages at the time of the error.
Also useful is the kernel version.
>
> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>
> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
> Overall:
> Device size: 500.00GiB
> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
chunk right now, it can't. However,
>
> Data,single: Size:483.97GiB, Used:298.18GiB
> /dev/vdb1 483.97GiB
>
> Metadata,single: Size:16.00GiB, Used:7.51GiB
> /dev/vdb1 16.00GiB
>
> System,single: Size:32.00MiB, Used:144.00KiB
> /dev/vdb1 32.00MiB
All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
Try remounting with enoscp_debug, and then trigger the problem again,
and post the resulting kernel messages.
--
Chris Murphy
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-11-30 23:02 ` Chris Murphy
@ 2016-12-01 7:49 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2016-12-01 8:12 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-12-01 8:18 ` Duncan
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG @ 2016-12-01 7:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chris Murphy; +Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Chris Murphy:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> # btrfs balance start -v -dusage=0 -musage=1 /ssddisk/
>> Dumping filters: flags 0x7, state 0x0, force is off
>> DATA (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=0
>> METADATA (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=1
>> SYSTEM (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=1
>> ERROR: error during balancing '/ssddisk/': No space left on device
>> There may be more info in syslog - try dmesg | tail
>
> You haven't provided kernel messages at the time of the error.
Kernel Message:
[ 429.107723] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
> Also useful is the kernel version.
Custom 4.4 kernel with patches up to 4.10. But i already tried 4.9-rc7
which does the same.
>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
>> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>>
>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>> Overall:
>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>
> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
> chunk right now, it can't. However,
Yes but there's lot of free space:
Free (estimated): 193.46GiB (min: 193.46GiB)
How does this match?
> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
> it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
>
> Try remounting with enoscp_debug, and then trigger the problem again,
> and post the resulting kernel messages.
With enospc debug it says:
[39193.425682] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
chunk for block group 839941881856
[39193.426033] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
Greets,
Stefan
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-12-01 7:49 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
@ 2016-12-01 8:12 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-12-01 11:55 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2016-12-01 13:51 ` Hans van Kranenburg
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrei Borzenkov @ 2016-12-01 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG; +Cc: Chris Murphy, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
<s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
...
>
> Custom 4.4 kernel with patches up to 4.10. But i already tried 4.9-rc7
> which does the same.
>
>
>>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
>>> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>>>
>>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>>> Overall:
>>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>>
>> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
>> chunk right now, it can't. However,
>
> Yes but there's lot of free space:
> Free (estimated): 193.46GiB (min: 193.46GiB)
>
> How does this match?
>
>
>> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
>> it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
>>
I remember discussion that balance always tries to pre-allocate one
chunk in advance, and I believe there was patch to correct it but I am
not sure whether it was merged.
>> Try remounting with enoscp_debug, and then trigger the problem again,
>> and post the resulting kernel messages.
>
> With enospc debug it says:
> [39193.425682] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
> chunk for block group 839941881856
> [39193.426033] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
>
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-11-30 23:02 ` Chris Murphy
2016-12-01 7:49 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
@ 2016-12-01 8:18 ` Duncan
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Duncan @ 2016-12-01 8:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-btrfs
Chris Murphy posted on Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:02:29 -0700 as excerpted:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> # btrfs balance start -v -dusage=0 -musage=1 /ssddisk/
>> Dumping filters: flags 0x7, state 0x0, force is off
>> DATA (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=0
>> METADATA (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=1
>> SYSTEM (flags 0x2): balancing, usage=1
>> ERROR: error during balancing '/ssddisk/': No space left on device
>> There may be more info in syslog - try dmesg | tail
>
> You haven't provided kernel messages at the time of the error.
>
> Also useful is the kernel version.
I won't disagree here as often it's kernel-version-specific behavior in
question, but in this case I think the behavior is generic and the
question can thus be answered on that basis, without the kernel version
or dmesg output.
@ Chris: Note that the ENOSPC wasn't during ordinary use, but
/specifically/ during balance, which behaves a bit differently regarding
ENOSPC, and I believe it's that version-generic behavior difference
that's in focus, here.
>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
Device line says 100% used (meaning allocated). The below simply shows
it a different way, confirming the 100% used.
>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>> Overall:
>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>
> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
> chunk right now, it can't.
... And that right there is the problem.
When doing chunk consolidation, with one exception noted below, btrfs
balance creates new chunks to write into, then rewrites the content from
the old into the new. But there's no space left (1 MiB isn't enough)
unallocated to allocate new chunks from, so balance errors out with
ENOSPC.
>> Data,single: Size:483.97GiB, Used:298.18GiB
>> /dev/vdb1 483.97GiB
>>
>> Metadata,single: Size:16.00GiB, Used:7.51GiB
>> /dev/vdb1 16.00GiB
>>
>> System,single: Size:32.00MiB, Used:144.00KiB
>> /dev/vdb1 32.00MiB
>
> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so it's
> unclear why there's a no space left error.
Normal usage can still write into the existing chunks since they're not
yet entirely full, but that's not where the error occurred. There's no
space left unallocated to allocate further chunks from, and that's what
balance, with one single exception, must do first, allocate a new chunk
in ordered to write into, so it errors out.
The one single exception is when there's actually nothing to rewrite, the
usage=0 case, in which case balance will simply erase any entirely empty
chunks of the appropriate type (-d=data, -m=metadata).
This _used_ to be required somewhat regularly, as the kernel knew how to
allocate new chunks but couldn't deallocate chunks, even entirely empty
chunks, without a balance. However, since 3.16 (IIRC), the kernel has
been able to deallocate entirely empty chunks entirely on its own
(automatically), and does so reasonably regularly in normal usage, so the
issue of zero-sized chunks is far rarer than it used to be.
But apparently there's still a bug or two somewhere, as we still get
reports of the usage=0 filter actually deallocating some empty chunks
back to unallocated, even on kernels that should be doing that
automatically. It's not as common as it once was, but it does still
happen.
So the usage=0 filter, the only case where the kernel doesn't have to
create a new chunk in ordered to clear space during a balance, because
it's not actually writing a new chunk, only deleting an empty one, does
still make sense to try, because sometimes it _does_ work, and in the
100% allocated case it's the simplest thing to try so it's worth trying
even tho there's a good chance it won't work, because the kernel is
/supposed/ to be removing those chunks automatically now, and /usually/
does just that.
OK, so what was wrong with the above command, and what should be tried
instead?
The above command used TWO filters, -dusage=0 -musage=1 . It choked on
the -musage=1, apparently because it tried a less-than 1% full but not /
entirely/ empty metadata chunk first, before trying data chunks with the
-dusuage=0, which should have succeeded, even if it found no empty data
chunks to remove.
So the fix is to try either -dusage=0 -musage=0 together, first, or to
try -dusage by itself first (and possibly -musage=0 after that), before
trying -musage=1.
If it works and there are empty chunks of either type that can be
removed, hopefully that will free up enough space to write at least one
more metadata chunk, leaving room to create at least the one more (it'd
be two with dup metadata, but here it's single so just one, typically 256
MiB tho it can be larger), and the -musage= can be slowly incremented as
necessary until there's enough space unallocated to work more freely once
again.
The reason to tackle metadata first, once the usage=0 filters have
cleared the entirely empty chunks out, is that metadata chunks are
typically only 256 MiB, while data chunks are nominally 1 GiB in size.
So if the usage=0 filters clear out more than 256 MiB but under a GiB,
space will still be tight enough to only do metadata, but hopefully doing
it will clear even more space (it should given the numbers, but you may
have to increment the usage= some, first), GiBs worth, so then data can
be done as well.
If neither -dusage=0 nor -musage=0 clear anything, as may well be the
case if the kernel is indeed clearing the empty chunks as it should, then
it's time for more drastic measures.
Since you still have free space in both data and metadata, you're not in
/too/ bad a shape, and deleting some files (which should be backed up
anyway, given that btrfs is still stabilizing and ready backups are
strongly recommended) or snapshots should eventually empty out some
chunks. The trouble is, it's a bit of trial and error to know what and
how much to delete in ordered to empty some chunks (unless you use the
debug commands to trace files down to individual chunks, but that'd be
quite some manual work if nobody's written a tool to help with the task,
alread, tho they may), which is time and hassle.
The other alternative is to btrfs device add a temporary device of
perhaps 30-60 GiB or so -- a thumbdrive will work if necessary. Then do
the balance (being sure to specify single profile metadata as it'll
default to raid1 as soon as there's a second device) using usage= to
rewrite and combine chunks as necessary to free up some of that allocated
but unused data and metadata space. Then once a suitable amount of space
has been freed, btrfs device remove the temporary device once again, thus
triggering balance to write everything from it back to the original
device once again.
Which is why the usage=0 is still worth trying, even tho it doesn't work
a lot of the time these days, because there's no empty chunks -- it's by
far the easiest of the three alternatives, and when it /does/ work it's
very fast and nearly hassle-free, certainly compared to either of the
other two alternatives, deleting stuff, or doing the temporary device
dance.
--
Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-12-01 8:12 ` Andrei Borzenkov
@ 2016-12-01 11:55 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2016-12-01 13:32 ` E V
2016-12-01 13:51 ` Hans van Kranenburg
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG @ 2016-12-01 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrei Borzenkov; +Cc: Chris Murphy, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Am 01.12.2016 um 09:12 schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
> ...
>>
>> Custom 4.4 kernel with patches up to 4.10. But i already tried 4.9-rc7
>> which does the same.
>>
>>
>>>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>>>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>>>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
>>>> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>>>>
>>>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>>>> Overall:
>>>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>>>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>>>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>>>
>>> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
>>> chunk right now, it can't. However,
>>
>> Yes but there's lot of free space:
>> Free (estimated): 193.46GiB (min: 193.46GiB)
>>
>> How does this match?
>>
>>
>>> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
>>> it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
>>>
>
> I remember discussion that balance always tries to pre-allocate one
> chunk in advance, and I believe there was patch to correct it but I am
> not sure whether it was merged.
Is there otherwise a possibility to make the free space unallocated again?
Stefan
>
>>> Try remounting with enoscp_debug, and then trigger the problem again,
>>> and post the resulting kernel messages.
>>
>> With enospc debug it says:
>> [39193.425682] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
>> chunk for block group 839941881856
>> [39193.426033] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
>>
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-12-01 11:55 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
@ 2016-12-01 13:32 ` E V
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: E V @ 2016-12-01 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
Cc: Andrei Borzenkov, Chris Murphy, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
I've frequently seen free space cache corruption lead to phantom
ENOSPC. You could try clearing the space cache, and/or mounting with
nospache_cache.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
<s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>
> Am 01.12.2016 um 09:12 schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
>> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> Custom 4.4 kernel with patches up to 4.10. But i already tried 4.9-rc7
>>> which does the same.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>>>>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>>>>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
>>>>> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>>>>>
>>>>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>>>>> Overall:
>>>>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>>>>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>>>>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>>>>
>>>> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
>>>> chunk right now, it can't. However,
>>>
>>> Yes but there's lot of free space:
>>> Free (estimated): 193.46GiB (min: 193.46GiB)
>>>
>>> How does this match?
>>>
>>>
>>>> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
>>>> it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
>>>>
>>
>> I remember discussion that balance always tries to pre-allocate one
>> chunk in advance, and I believe there was patch to correct it but I am
>> not sure whether it was merged.
>
> Is there otherwise a possibility to make the free space unallocated again?
>
> Stefan
>
>>
>>>> Try remounting with enoscp_debug, and then trigger the problem again,
>>>> and post the resulting kernel messages.
>>>
>>> With enospc debug it says:
>>> [39193.425682] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
>>> chunk for block group 839941881856
>>> [39193.426033] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
>>>
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-12-01 8:12 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-12-01 11:55 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
@ 2016-12-01 13:51 ` Hans van Kranenburg
2016-12-01 14:10 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Hans van Kranenburg @ 2016-12-01 13:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrei Borzenkov, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
Cc: Chris Murphy, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
On 12/01/2016 09:12 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
> ...
>>
>> Custom 4.4 kernel with patches up to 4.10. But i already tried 4.9-rc7
>> which does the same.
>>
>>
>>>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>>>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>>>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
>>>> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>>>>
>>>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>>>> Overall:
>>>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>>>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>>>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>>>
>>> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
>>> chunk right now, it can't. However,
>>
>> Yes but there's lot of free space:
>> Free (estimated): 193.46GiB (min: 193.46GiB)
>>
>> How does this match?
>>
>>
>>> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
>>> it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
>>>
>
> I remember discussion that balance always tries to pre-allocate one
> chunk in advance, and I believe there was patch to correct it but I am
> not sure whether it was merged.
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg56772.html
>>> Try remounting with enoscp_debug, and then trigger the problem again,
>>> and post the resulting kernel messages.
>>
>> With enospc debug it says:
>> [39193.425682] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
>> chunk for block group 839941881856
>> [39193.426033] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
--
Hans van Kranenburg
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-12-01 13:51 ` Hans van Kranenburg
@ 2016-12-01 14:10 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2016-12-01 15:48 ` Chris Murphy
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG @ 2016-12-01 14:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans van Kranenburg, Andrei Borzenkov
Cc: Chris Murphy, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Am 01.12.2016 um 14:51 schrieb Hans van Kranenburg:
> On 12/01/2016 09:12 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
>> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> Custom 4.4 kernel with patches up to 4.10. But i already tried 4.9-rc7
>>> which does the same.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>>>>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>>>>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
>>>>> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>>>>>
>>>>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>>>>> Overall:
>>>>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>>>>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>>>>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>>>>
>>>> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
>>>> chunk right now, it can't. However,
>>>
>>> Yes but there's lot of free space:
>>> Free (estimated): 193.46GiB (min: 193.46GiB)
>>>
>>> How does this match?
>>>
>>>
>>>> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
>>>> it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
>>>>
>>
>> I remember discussion that balance always tries to pre-allocate one
>> chunk in advance, and I believe there was patch to correct it but I am
>> not sure whether it was merged.
>
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg56772.html
Thanks - still don't understand why that one is not upstream or why it
was reverted. Looks absolutely reasonable to me. Other option would be
to make it possible to make allocated unused space unallocted again - no
idea how todo that.
>
>>>> Try remounting with enoscp_debug, and then trigger the problem again,
>>>> and post the resulting kernel messages.
>>>
>>> With enospc debug it says:
>>> [39193.425682] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
>>> chunk for block group 839941881856
>>> [39193.426033] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
>
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-12-01 14:10 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
@ 2016-12-01 15:48 ` Chris Murphy
2016-12-01 18:43 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2016-12-03 4:43 ` Andrei Borzenkov
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Chris Murphy @ 2016-12-01 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
Cc: Hans van Kranenburg, Andrei Borzenkov, Chris Murphy,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
<s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>
> Am 01.12.2016 um 14:51 schrieb Hans van Kranenburg:
>> On 12/01/2016 09:12 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
>>> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Custom 4.4 kernel with patches up to 4.10. But i already tried 4.9-rc7
>>>> which does the same.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>>>>>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>>>>>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
>>>>>> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>>>>>> Overall:
>>>>>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>>>>>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>>>>>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>>>>>
>>>>> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
>>>>> chunk right now, it can't. However,
>>>>
>>>> Yes but there's lot of free space:
>>>> Free (estimated): 193.46GiB (min: 193.46GiB)
>>>>
>>>> How does this match?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
>>>>> it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I remember discussion that balance always tries to pre-allocate one
>>> chunk in advance, and I believe there was patch to correct it but I am
>>> not sure whether it was merged.
>>
>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg56772.html
>
> Thanks - still don't understand why that one is not upstream or why it
> was reverted. Looks absolutely reasonable to me.
It is upstream and hasn't been reverted.
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tree/fs/btrfs/volumes.c?id=refs/tags/v4.8.11
line 3650
I would try Duncan's idea of using just one filter and seeing what happens:
'btrfs balance start -dusage=1 <mp>'
>>>> With enospc debug it says:
>>>> [39193.425682] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
>>>> chunk for block group 839941881856
>>>> [39193.426033] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
It might be nice if this stated what kind of chunk it's trying to allocate.
--
Chris Murphy
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-12-01 15:48 ` Chris Murphy
@ 2016-12-01 18:43 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2016-12-03 4:43 ` Andrei Borzenkov
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG @ 2016-12-01 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chris Murphy
Cc: Hans van Kranenburg, Andrei Borzenkov,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Am 01.12.2016 um 16:48 schrieb Chris Murphy:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>>
>> Am 01.12.2016 um 14:51 schrieb Hans van Kranenburg:
>>> On 12/01/2016 09:12 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
>>>> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Custom 4.4 kernel with patches up to 4.10. But i already tried 4.9-rc7
>>>>> which does the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>>>>>>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>>>>>>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
>>>>>>> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>>>>>>> Overall:
>>>>>>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>>>>>>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>>>>>>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
>>>>>> chunk right now, it can't. However,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes but there's lot of free space:
>>>>> Free (estimated): 193.46GiB (min: 193.46GiB)
>>>>>
>>>>> How does this match?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
>>>>>> it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I remember discussion that balance always tries to pre-allocate one
>>>> chunk in advance, and I believe there was patch to correct it but I am
>>>> not sure whether it was merged.
>>>
>>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg56772.html
>>
>> Thanks - still don't understand why that one is not upstream or why it
>> was reverted. Looks absolutely reasonable to me.
>
> It is upstream and hasn't been reverted.
>
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tree/fs/btrfs/volumes.c?id=refs/tags/v4.8.11
> line 3650
>
> I would try Duncan's idea of using just one filter and seeing what happens:
>
> 'btrfs balance start -dusage=1 <mp>'
see below:
[zabbix-db ~]# btrfs balance start -dusage=1 /ssddisk/
Done, had to relocate 0 out of 505 chunks
[zabbix-db ~]# btrfs balance start -dusage=10 /ssddisk/
Done, had to relocate 0 out of 505 chunks
[zabbix-db ~]# btrfs balance start -musage=1 /ssddisk/
ERROR: error during balancing '/ssddisk/': No space left on device
There may be more info in syslog - try dmesg | tail
[zabbix-db ~]# dmesg
[78306.288834] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
chunk for block group 839941881856
[78306.289197] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
>
>
>>>>> With enospc debug it says:
>>>>> [39193.425682] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
>>>>> chunk for block group 839941881856
>>>>> [39193.426033] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
>
> It might be nice if this stated what kind of chunk it's trying to allocate.
>
>
>
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-12-01 15:48 ` Chris Murphy
2016-12-01 18:43 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
@ 2016-12-03 4:43 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2016-12-05 11:12 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrei Borzenkov @ 2016-12-03 4:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chris Murphy, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
Cc: Hans van Kranenburg, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
01.12.2016 18:48, Chris Murphy пишет:
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>>
>> Am 01.12.2016 um 14:51 schrieb Hans van Kranenburg:
>>> On 12/01/2016 09:12 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
>>>> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Custom 4.4 kernel with patches up to 4.10. But i already tried 4.9-rc7
>>>>> which does the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>>>>>>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>>>>>>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
>>>>>>> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>>>>>>> Overall:
>>>>>>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>>>>>>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>>>>>>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
>>>>>> chunk right now, it can't. However,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes but there's lot of free space:
>>>>> Free (estimated): 193.46GiB (min: 193.46GiB)
>>>>>
>>>>> How does this match?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
>>>>>> it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I remember discussion that balance always tries to pre-allocate one
>>>> chunk in advance, and I believe there was patch to correct it but I am
>>>> not sure whether it was merged.
>>>
>>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg56772.html
>>
>> Thanks - still don't understand why that one is not upstream or why it
>> was reverted. Looks absolutely reasonable to me.
>
> It is upstream and hasn't been reverted.
>
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tree/fs/btrfs/volumes.c?id=refs/tags/v4.8.11
> line 3650
>
> I would try Duncan's idea of using just one filter and seeing what happens:
>
> 'btrfs balance start -dusage=1 <mp>'
>
Actually I just hit exactly the same symptoms on my VM where device was
fully allocated and metadata balance failed, but data balance succeeded
to free up space which allowed metadata balance to run too. This is
under 4.8.10.
So it appears that balance logic between data and metadata is somehow
different.
As this VM gets in 100% allocated condition fairly often I'd try to get
better understanding next time.
>
>>>>> With enospc debug it says:
>>>>> [39193.425682] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
>>>>> chunk for block group 839941881856
>>>>> [39193.426033] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
>
> It might be nice if this stated what kind of chunk it's trying to allocate.
>
>
>
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-12-03 4:43 ` Andrei Borzenkov
@ 2016-12-05 11:12 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2016-12-05 11:51 ` Duncan
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG @ 2016-12-05 11:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrei Borzenkov, Chris Murphy
Cc: Hans van Kranenburg, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
isn't there a way to move free space to unallocated space again?
Am 03.12.2016 um 05:43 schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
> 01.12.2016 18:48, Chris Murphy пишет:
>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
>> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 14:51 schrieb Hans van Kranenburg:
>>>> On 12/01/2016 09:12 AM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
>>>>> <s.priebe@profihost.ag> wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Custom 4.4 kernel with patches up to 4.10. But i already tried 4.9-rc7
>>>>>> which does the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> # btrfs filesystem show /ssddisk/
>>>>>>>> Label: none uuid: a69d2e90-c2ca-4589-9876-234446868adc
>>>>>>>> Total devices 1 FS bytes used 305.67GiB
>>>>>>>> devid 1 size 500.00GiB used 500.00GiB path /dev/vdb1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> # btrfs filesystem usage /ssddisk/
>>>>>>>> Overall:
>>>>>>>> Device size: 500.00GiB
>>>>>>>> Device allocated: 500.00GiB
>>>>>>>> Device unallocated: 1.05MiB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Drive is actually fully allocated so if Btrfs needs to create a new
>>>>>>> chunk right now, it can't. However,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes but there's lot of free space:
>>>>>> Free (estimated): 193.46GiB (min: 193.46GiB)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does this match?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All three chunk types have quite a bit of unused space in them, so
>>>>>>> it's unclear why there's a no space left error.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember discussion that balance always tries to pre-allocate one
>>>>> chunk in advance, and I believe there was patch to correct it but I am
>>>>> not sure whether it was merged.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg56772.html
>>>
>>> Thanks - still don't understand why that one is not upstream or why it
>>> was reverted. Looks absolutely reasonable to me.
>>
>> It is upstream and hasn't been reverted.
>>
>> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tree/fs/btrfs/volumes.c?id=refs/tags/v4.8.11
>> line 3650
>>
>> I would try Duncan's idea of using just one filter and seeing what happens:
>>
>> 'btrfs balance start -dusage=1 <mp>'
>>
>
> Actually I just hit exactly the same symptoms on my VM where device was
> fully allocated and metadata balance failed, but data balance succeeded
> to free up space which allowed metadata balance to run too. This is
> under 4.8.10.
>
> So it appears that balance logic between data and metadata is somehow
> different.
>
> As this VM gets in 100% allocated condition fairly often I'd try to get
> better understanding next time.
>
>
>>
>>>>>> With enospc debug it says:
>>>>>> [39193.425682] BTRFS warning (device vdb1): no space to allocate a new
>>>>>> chunk for block group 839941881856
>>>>>> [39193.426033] BTRFS info (device vdb1): 1 enospc errors during balance
>>
>> It might be nice if this stated what kind of chunk it's trying to allocate.
>>
>>
>>
>
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* Re: Metadata balance fails ENOSPC
2016-12-05 11:12 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
@ 2016-12-05 11:51 ` Duncan
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Duncan @ 2016-12-05 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-btrfs
Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG posted on Mon, 05 Dec 2016 12:12:12 +0100 as
excerpted:
> isn't there a way to move free space to unallocated space again?
Yes, btrfs balance, but...
--
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