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From: "Holger Hoffstätte" <holger.hoffstaette@googlemail.com>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Performance Issues
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:37:59 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2014.09.22.12.37.58@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20140922115903.GJ9715@twin.jikos.cz

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:59:03 +0200, David Sterba wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 01:34:38PM +0000, Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
>> 
>> I'd also love a technical explanation why this happens and how it could
>> be fixed. Maybe it's just a consequence of how the metadata tree(s)
>> are laid out on disk.
> 
> The stat() call is the most severe slowdown factor in combination with
> fragmentation and random order of the inodes that are being stat()ed.
> 
> A 'ls -f' (that does not stat) goes only through the DIR_INDEX_KEY items
> in the b-tree that are usually packed together and reading is sequential
> and fast.
> 
> A 'ls' that calls stat() in turn will have to seek for the INODE_ITEM
> item that can be far from all the currently read metadata blocks.

Thanks Dave - that confirms everything I (unscientifically ;) observed so
far, since I also tried to use "find" to warm up (in the hope it would
cache the relevant metadata blocks), but running with strace showed that
it does - of course! - not call stat on each inode, and just quickly reads
the directory entry list (via getdents()).

This meant that even after a full "find" a subsequent "du" would still be
slow(er). Both the cold "find" and a cold "du" also *sound* noticeably
different, in terms of disk head scratching; find is significantly less
seeky.

Interesting that you also mention the readahead. I've run the "du" warmup
under Brendan Gregg's iosnoop and it shows that most stat()-heavy I/O is
done in 16k blocks, while ext4 only seems to use 4k.

Time to look at the trees in detail.. :)

-h


  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-22 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-19 12:18 Performance Issues Rob Spanton
2014-09-19 12:25 ` Swâmi Petaramesh
2014-09-19 12:58   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-09-19 12:49 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-09-19 12:59   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-09-19 13:34 ` Holger Hoffstätte
2014-09-22 11:59   ` David Sterba
2014-09-22 12:37     ` Holger Hoffstätte [this message]
2014-09-22 13:25       ` David Sterba
2014-09-19 13:51 ` Holger Hoffstätte
2014-09-19 14:53   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-09-19 16:23     ` Holger Hoffstätte
2014-09-19 17:51   ` Zach Brown
2014-09-20  8:23   ` Marc Dietrich
2014-09-20 13:41     ` Martin
2014-09-20 18:29       ` Chris Murphy
2014-09-20 14:04     ` Wang Shilong
2014-09-20 20:44       ` Marc Dietrich
2014-09-19 15:05 ` Josef Bacik
2014-09-19 16:51   ` Rob Spanton
2014-09-19 17:45     ` Josef Bacik
2014-10-30 14:23       ` Rob Spanton
2014-09-20  5:58     ` Duncan

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