From: "IVAN DE JESUS DERAS TABORA" <i.deras@unitec.edu>
To: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
Cc: John Richard Moser <nigelenki@comcast.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-c-programming <linux-c-programming@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Garbage Collection and Swap
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:20:34 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40F508F2.5090005@unitec.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40F45DEF.8060307@techsource.com>
Timothy Miller wrote:
>
>
> John Richard Moser wrote:
>
>>
>> THE GARBAGE COLLECTOR WANDERS AROUND IN THE ENTIRE HEAP, AND IN SOME
>> CASES IN OTHER PARTS OF RAM, LOOKING FOR WHAT LOOKS LIKE POINTERS TO
>> YOUR ALLOCATED DATA.
>>
>
> Whose GC does this?
>
> I get the impression that the Java VM, for instance, knows what
> variables are pointers (well, references) and only considers those.
> It also knows every object that has even been allocated. It scans
> over every pointer it knows about (the "mark" phase), and then it
> scans over every dynamically allocated memory block (the "sweep"
> phase) and removes all that have no references.
>
> There is anecdotal evidence that this approach sometimes can improve
> performance over "manual" freeing because freeing can be done in bulk.
>
> Java GC works very well, and it's a huge improvement over the "manual"
> method, because it almost completely eliminates memory leaks (if you
> really want a memory leak, you can find a way to make it happen).
>
> Now, if you're talking about trying to apply GC to C code, it's an
> entirely different matter. C wasn't designed with GC in mind. The
> very fact that you can do MATH on pointers in C makes reliable GC
> nearly impossible, although any reasonable attempt would certainly be
> better than your assumption that something would "go scanning through
> memory looking for things that look like pointers." That would be
> horribly stupid. Better would be to have the compiler emit code that
> registers pointers with something that keeps track of them, but that's
> still a huge can of worms when you consider someone malloc'ing N
> bytes, storing a (void *), and then later assigning that value to a
> struct pointer.
>
> No, I don't think GC in C is feasible.
A garbage collector for C and C++
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc/
prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-14 10:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-10 0:43 Garbage Collection and Swap John Richard Moser
2004-07-10 2:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-10 3:10 ` John Richard Moser
2004-07-11 0:57 ` Rik van Riel
2004-07-11 1:06 ` Rik van Riel
2004-07-11 2:10 ` John Richard Moser
2004-07-13 22:10 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-13 23:53 ` John Richard Moser
2004-07-20 16:47 ` array size 1 ? Anshuman S. Rawat
2004-07-21 2:49 ` Luiz Fernando N. Capitulino
2004-07-21 3:48 ` Glynn Clements
2004-08-08 5:37 ` Sascha Retzki
2004-07-14 10:20 ` IVAN DE JESUS DERAS TABORA [this message]
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