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From: Per Jessen <per@computer.org>
To: linux-c-programming@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: String comparison for fixed strings
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:49:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46C55302.2050209@computer.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18116.37866.145972.803283@cerise.gclements.plus.com>

Glynn Clements wrote:

> In particular, branch instructions are dealt with by dedicated logic
> circuitry which does nothing but process branch instructions. This
> enables speculative execution to work handle branches even when the
> calculation of the branch condition hasn't completed.

Yep, I understand all that - it doesn't even have to be a particularly
modern CPU, even IBMs S390 architecture did this in the early '90s.
Speculative execution and branch prediction etc. have both been around
for a while, just not in the Intel world.

Regardless, I still wouldn't say "branches don't normally take any CPU
cycles", but maybe that's splitting hairs.

> The actual cost of a code cache miss varies depending upon the
> relative speed of the CPU and RAM, but 400 cycles is typical. You
> would need to have a lot of additional instructions before their cost
> outweighs that of a cache miss.

Very true, but given the size of L1 cache these days, you also have a
lot more leeway than you did e.g. in the 90s.  A typical memcmp() for
short strings is unrolled by default by gcc.  (at least I'm fairly
certain it does that).


/Per

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-17  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-15 11:06 String comparison for fixed strings KhaOsh
2007-08-15 13:18 ` Stephen Kratzer
2007-08-15 14:46   ` Glynn Clements
2007-08-15 17:26     ` Leslie P. Polzer
2007-08-16  1:44       ` Glynn Clements
2007-08-16  7:30         ` Per Jessen
2007-08-16 18:14           ` Glynn Clements
2007-08-17  7:49             ` Per Jessen [this message]
2007-08-17 20:22               ` KhaOsh
2007-08-16  1:54     ` Glynn Clements
2007-08-15 18:51 ` Jesse Ruffin

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