From: Steve Graegert <graegerts@gmail.com>
To: Glynn Clements <glynn@gclements.plus.com>
Cc: Amit Dang <amit_dang@intersolutions.stpn.soft.net>,
linux-c-programming <linux-c-programming@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Any pointer to Byte Alignment & Structure Padding?
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 12:15:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a00c8d50508050315501d900c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17139.19285.978591.275528@cerise.gclements.plus.com>
On 8/5/05, Glynn Clements <glynn@gclements.plus.com> wrote:
>
> Steve Graegert wrote:
>
> > > Thanks for your prompt response and the valuable information. But I
> > > tried following on Linux 32-bit gcc 2.96
> > > struct temp {
> > > long long i;
> > > char c;
> > > } and sizeof(struct temp) gave 12 not 16.
> >
> > Hmm, I have no access to a 32-bit machine right now, but I am running
> > GCC 3.4.2 on SPARC and sizeof(temp) gives 16 as expected.
>
> long long is likely to be 8-byte aligned on 64-bit systems and 4-byte
> aligned on 32-bit systems.
Agree. Interestingly, Microsofts VCC (was quite curious, so I did a
quick test) aligns long long on an 8-byte boundary resulting in a size
of 16 for the structure given above. (Yes it's a 32-bit machine.)
Don't know the reason for that, since the ABI for i386 does not
mention this case explicitly.
> > One thing a could think of is that on 32-bit machines it makes no
> > sense to pad to 16 bytes since the natural word size (size of internal
> > registers) is 4 bytes resulting in an unnecessary read operation to
> > fetch the rest of the structure that is useless anyway.
>
> Aligment is determined by the granularity of RAM access. E.g. 32-bit
> systems tend to have RAM organised as 32-bit words; reading a 32-bit
> value which issn't aligned requires reading two adjacent words,
> shifting and OR-ing them together to obtain the desired value.
Yes, sure, but why would Microsoft's C compiler generate code that
results in a fully despensable read operation for the padded word? (I
know this is a Linux programming list, but the question seems related
to the overall topic of data alignment in memory.)
Regards
\Steve
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-01 11:43 Any pointer to Byte Alignment & Structure Padding? Amit Dang
[not found] ` <6eee1c40508010514517b5b90@mail.gmail.com>
2005-08-01 12:16 ` Vadiraj
[not found] ` <17134.43470.280296.644313@cerise.gclements.plus.com>
2005-08-02 11:21 ` Vadiraj
2005-08-02 11:40 ` Amit Dang
2005-08-02 16:39 ` Glynn Clements
2005-08-02 17:12 ` Vadiraj
2005-08-03 4:04 ` Amit Dang
[not found] ` <673ac06405080402432d0feda3@mail.gmail.com>
2005-08-04 15:23 ` Vadiraj
2005-08-04 16:28 ` Steve Graegert
2005-08-05 16:51 ` Vadiraj
2005-08-05 4:14 ` Amit Dang
2005-08-05 6:32 ` Steve Graegert
2005-08-05 6:49 ` Amit Dang
2005-08-05 7:09 ` Steve Graegert
2005-08-05 11:19 ` Glynn Clements
2005-08-05 10:15 ` Steve Graegert [this message]
2005-08-05 10:53 ` Amit Dang
2005-08-05 11:13 ` Steve Graegert
2005-08-05 11:28 ` Amit Dang
2005-08-05 11:37 ` Steve Graegert
2005-08-05 12:59 ` Glynn Clements
2005-08-05 11:31 ` Steve Graegert
2005-08-01 12:27 ` Amit Dang
2005-08-01 14:11 ` wwp
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[not found] ` <17135.20687.821822.269575@cerise.gclements.plus.com>
[not found] ` <02c401c59745$2aaa0410$9900a8c0@ispl091>
2005-08-02 11:08 ` Progga
2005-08-02 11:34 ` Amit Dang
2005-08-02 11:32 ` Steve Graegert
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