From: Vincent Mailhol <mailhol@kernel.org>
To: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>,
Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
linux-can@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Vincent Mailhol <mailhol@kernel.org>
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] can: add Transmitter Delay Compensation (TDC) documentation
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2025 20:23:43 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251012-can-fd-doc-v1-2-86cc7d130026@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251012-can-fd-doc-v1-0-86cc7d130026@kernel.org>
Back in 2021, support for CAN TDC was added to the kernel in series [1]
and in iproute2 in series [2]. However, the documentation was never
updated.
Add a new sub-section under CAN-FD driver support to document how to
configure the TDC using the "ip tool".
[1] add the netlink interface for CAN-FD Transmitter Delay Compensation (TDC)
Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210918095637.20108-1-mailhol.vincent@wanadoo.fr/
[2] iplink_can: cleaning, fixes and adding TDC support
Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211103164428.692722-1-mailhol.vincent@wanadoo.fr/
Signed-off-by: Vincent Mailhol <mailhol@kernel.org>
---
Documentation/networking/can.rst | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 60 insertions(+)
diff --git a/Documentation/networking/can.rst b/Documentation/networking/can.rst
index 58c026d51d94..de9e7549859f 100644
--- a/Documentation/networking/can.rst
+++ b/Documentation/networking/can.rst
@@ -1464,6 +1464,66 @@ Example when 'fd-non-iso on' is added on this switchable CAN FD adapter::
can <FD,FD-NON-ISO> state ERROR-ACTIVE (berr-counter tx 0 rx 0) restart-ms 0
+Transmitter Delay Compensation
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+
+At high bit rates, the propagation delay from the TX pin to the RX pin of
+the transceiver might become greater than the actual bit time causing
+measurement errors: the RX pin would still be measuring the previous bit.
+
+The Transmitter Delay Compensation (thereafter, TDC) resolves this problem
+by introducing a Secondary Sample Point (SSP) equal to the distance, in
+minimum time quantum, from the start of the bit time on the TX pin to the
+actual measurement on the RX pin. The SSP is calculated as the sum of two
+configurable values: the TDC Value (TDCV) and the TDC offset (TDCO).
+
+TDC, if supported by the device, can be configured together with CAN-FD
+using the ip tool's "tdc-mode" argument as follow::
+
+- **omitted**: when no "tdc-mode" option is provided, the kernel will
+ automatically decide whether TDC should be turned on, in which case it
+ will calculate a default TDCO and use the TDCV as measured by the
+ device. This is the recommended method to use TDC.
+
+- **"tdc-mode off"**: TDC is explicitly disabled.
+
+- **"tdc-mode auto"**: the user must provide the "tdco" argument. The TDCV
+ will be automatically calculated by the device. This option is only
+ available if the device supports the TDC-AUTO CAN controller mode.
+
+- **"tdc-mode manual"**: the user must provide both the "tdco" and "tdcv"
+ arguments. This option is only available if the device supports the
+ TDC-MANUAL CAN controller mode.
+
+Note that some devices may offer an additional parameter: "tdcf" (TDC Filter
+window). If supported by your device, this can be added as an optional
+argument to either "tdc-mode auto" or "tdc-mode manual".
+
+Example configuring a 500 kbit/s arbitration bitrate, a 5 Mbit/s data
+bitrate, a TDCO of 15 minimum time quantum and a TDCV automatically measured
+by the device::
+
+ $ ip link set can0 up type can bitrate 500000 \
+ fd on dbitrate 4000000 \
+ tdc-mode auto tdco 15
+ $ ip -details link show can0
+ 5: can0: <NOARP,UP,LOWER_UP,ECHO> mtu 72 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP \
+ mode DEFAULT group default qlen 10
+ link/can promiscuity 0 allmulti 0 minmtu 72 maxmtu 72
+ can <FD,TDC-AUTO> state ERROR-ACTIVE restart-ms 0
+ bitrate 500000 sample-point 0.875
+ tq 12 prop-seg 69 phase-seg1 70 phase-seg2 20 sjw 10 brp 1
+ ES582.1/ES584.1: tseg1 2..256 tseg2 2..128 sjw 1..128 brp 1..512 \
+ brp_inc 1
+ dbitrate 4000000 dsample-point 0.750
+ dtq 12 dprop-seg 7 dphase-seg1 7 dphase-seg2 5 dsjw 2 dbrp 1
+ tdco 15 tdcf 0
+ ES582.1/ES584.1: dtseg1 2..32 dtseg2 1..16 dsjw 1..8 dbrp 1..32 \
+ dbrp_inc 1
+ tdco 0..127 tdcf 0..127
+ clock 80000000
+
+
Supported CAN Hardware
----------------------
--
2.49.1
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-12 11:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-12 11:23 [PATCH 0/2] can: add Transmitter Delay Compensation (TDC) documentation Vincent Mailhol
2025-10-12 11:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] can: remove false statement about 1:1 mapping between DLC and length Vincent Mailhol
2025-10-12 11:23 ` Vincent Mailhol [this message]
2025-10-12 14:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] can: add Transmitter Delay Compensation (TDC) documentation Andrew Lunn
2025-10-12 16:01 ` Vincent Mailhol
2025-10-12 16:04 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-10-13 9:41 ` Simon Horman
2025-10-12 14:30 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Marc Kleine-Budde
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