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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-atm-general@lists.sourceforge.net,
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	"Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net: Convert %pK back to %p
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2026 17:09:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260714150957.GY4aiPiH@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202607090916.7731D36D@keescook>

tl;dr: Do the networking folks mind switch it to 0 instead the pointer?

On 2026-07-09 09:18:44 [-0700], Kees Cook wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 06, 2026 at 09:38:24AM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > This is a revert of commit 71338aa7d050c ("net: convert %p usage to
> > %pK") which is from 2011. Back then the default behaviour for %p was to
> > print the pointer. The %pK modifier was introduced to be able to control
> > the behaviour of specific pointer output without changing the behaviour
> > of %p for everyone. It was dedicated to avoid leaking pointers via
> > /proc.
> 
> Given the policy on bare %p, and that there are so few in this list (15
> files), how about review those that can just simply be removed or
> switched to %pS, etc:
> https://docs.kernel.org/process/deprecated.html#p-format-specifier

It is not a new use, but an old one ;)
The pointers are data pointers of sockets and so on, not code. So using
%pS will reveal the exact pointers even with hashing enabled (in case
you think about changing the behaviour for __sprint_symbol() for cases
where kallsyms fails to resolve the symbol).

The things here are "reports" such as /proc/net/icmp where you get
|# cat /proc/net/icmp
|  sl  local_address rem_address   st tx_queue rx_queue tr tm->when retrnsmt   uid  timeout inode ref pointer drops
|   53: 00000000:C9F2 00000000:0000 07 00000000:00000000 00:00000000 00000000  1000        0 4569 2 000000001145b7f6 0

so this is probably considered as ABI. lsof, lsfd (util-linux) are using
this file. So I don't think this entry can be removed. These kind of
files have usually a flexible ABI and are fine with adding new
attributes but not removing existing ones.
In this cases we usually put 0 if we remove an entry.

The pointer in icmp has been added int commit c319b4d76b9e5 ("net: ipv4:
add IPPROTO_ICMP socket kind") and no explanation why. But the order is
the same as in the tcp or raw file. I traced the tcp pointer inclusion
back to 2.3.15pre3 with no explanation. It just appeared with bunch of
other changes so maybe making debug a bit easier.

Anyway, given all this, do the networking folks mind switch it to 0
instead the pointer? 

Sebastian

      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-14 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-06  7:38 [PATCH net-next] net: Convert %pK back to %p Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-07  7:46 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-07  9:37   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-07-09 11:28 ` Petr Mladek
2026-07-09 16:18 ` Kees Cook
2026-07-14 15:09   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]

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