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From: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>
To: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>,
	Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
	dev@sebastianhaas.info, linux-can@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] can: Introducing CANFD for af_can & can-raw
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:38:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F6AF320.7080605@grandegger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120322092456.GB426@vandijck-laurijssen.be>

On 03/22/2012 10:24 AM, Kurt Van Dijck wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 04:05:28PM +0100, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
>> On 21.03.2012 15:56, Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
>>
>>> Also DLC=9 means 12 bytes, DLC=10 means 16 bytes, DLC=15 means 64 bytes.
>>> This may even change in the final spec.
>>
>> Yep!
> 
> Although the precise coding is not final yet, I'd propose to not use that coding
> in the ABI for these reasons:
> * The reason of fitting a DLC in 4 bits makes sense on the wire
>   but not on the ABI. We still use an u8!
> * Decoding & encoding between real length & DLC IMO is best done next to the
>   chips register access.

I was speaking of the frame's DLC field. The app/abi should support any
integer length, of course.

>>>>> 3. Will these differences be visible in the CAN registers? Is this relevant?
>>>> Without hardware, it's a bit early to predict. I guess it will be visible, but
>>>> not relevant since that's driver stuff.
>>>
>>> As CANFD controllers also supports CAN2.0 frames, they must provide the
>>> the relevant information somehow, similar to EFF and SFF.
> I doubt this.
> EFF & SFF share the same bus. CANFD vs. CAN2.0 is not a per-frame thing. You
> have configured it yourself at chip initialization time...

Why not? A CANFD capable controller should be able to distinguish
between a legacy and a CANFD frame by looking to the BRS bit in the frame.

Wolfgang.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-22  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-21  9:10 [RFC] can: Introducing CANFD for af_can & can-raw Kurt Van Dijck
     [not found] ` <E1SAIM4-0007a6-Sf@smtprelay03.ispgateway.de>
2012-03-21 11:05   ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-21 11:43     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-03-21 12:08       ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-21 12:32         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-03-21 12:51           ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-21 13:19             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-03-21 13:21           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2012-03-21 13:53             ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-21 14:49               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2012-03-21 15:26                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2012-03-22  9:03                 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-21 14:56               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2012-03-21 15:05                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2012-03-22  9:24                   ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-22  9:32                     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-03-22  9:38                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger [this message]
2012-03-22 10:13                       ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-23 11:01                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2012-03-22  9:57                   ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-22 10:06                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2012-03-22 10:35                       ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-22 11:00                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2012-03-22 12:25                           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2012-03-22 12:47                             ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-21 13:29           ` Alexander Stein
2012-03-21 13:34             ` Kurt Van Dijck
2012-03-21 13:51             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2012-03-21 15:47               ` Alexander Stein

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