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From: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>
To: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>, Mirza Krak <mirza.krak@hostmobility.com>
Cc: "linux-can@vger.kernel.org" <linux-can@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
	Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] K-Line protocol via SocketCAN
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 22:12:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5759CDC9.2010204@hartkopp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5759C1D1.1000001@denx.de>

On 06/09/2016 09:21 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 06/09/2016 08:29 PM, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:

>>> I am more interested in the RTNL configuration interface, since the
>>> kline has way too many parameters and the RTNL scales well in that
>>> aspect.
>>
>> If like rtnl so much why don't you create a K-Line netdevice driver for
>> it and use the PF_PACKET socket to exchange data with the netdevice?
>
> Because last time I did that with the arinc, I was told to integrate
> that into the socketcan instead.
>
>>> When using the socket interface, I can also add various flags to the
>>> packet and control the properties of the data that are to be transmitted
>>> via the KLine interface. That's real convenient.
>>
>> But that has nothing to do with PF_CAN.
>
> So I should add another orthogonal infrastructure ? That's what I did
> with the arinc and I was told the exact opposite, so I am really
> confused here .

ARINC 825 *is* CAN. When people tell you to use the existing 
infrastructure that was a good hint, but K-Line is definitely not CAN.

Your patch set shows that you are adding things to the CAN 
infrastructure that have nothing to do with CAN.

E.g. the K-Line timing you add in patch 4/5 has nothing to do with CAN 
specific configurations.

Additionally I don't know whether the struct kline_frame is the optimal 
solution because it sticks to struct can_frame and does not reflect the 
(optional) K-Line address scheme.

So you could either use the sl_kline.c with PF_PACKET and create a 
separate rtnl configuration for it OR you could create a character 
device which handles K-Line frames and has some ioctls to configure the 
specialized timings.

As K-Line never was multi-user capable by design the chardev approach is 
the most 'natural' concept IMHO.

Regards,
Oliver


  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-09 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-19 23:15 [RFC] K-Line protocol via SocketCAN Marek Vasut
2016-05-20  6:04 ` Mirza Krak
2016-05-20  6:28   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2016-05-20 11:59     ` Marek Vasut
2016-05-22 20:27       ` Patrick Menschel
2016-05-22 21:11         ` Marek Vasut
2016-06-01  2:26       ` Marek Vasut
2016-06-05 12:07         ` Oliver Hartkopp
2016-06-09 15:00           ` Marek Vasut
2016-06-09 18:29             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2016-06-09 19:21               ` Marek Vasut
2016-06-09 20:12                 ` Oliver Hartkopp [this message]
2016-06-11 19:42                   ` Marek Vasut
2016-06-12 19:28                     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2016-06-13 22:07                       ` Marek Vasut
2016-06-14  6:10                         ` Oliver Hartkopp
2016-06-15  3:42                           ` Marek Vasut
2016-06-15  6:57                             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2016-06-15 11:05                               ` Marek Vasut

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