From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jeremy Allison Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available [ver #6] Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:54:10 -0700 Message-ID: <20100813175410.GA8202@samba1> References: <1280524978.2452.9.camel@segv.aura.of.mankind> <20100801092529.5e6ba0e0@corrin.poochiereds.net> <20100805235218.GB31233@jeremy-laptop> <20100806133836.49757af9@notabene> <20100808121208.GA7329@jeremy-laptop> <20100808085301.24f53e5a@tlielax.poochiereds.net> <20100808130501.GA9851@jeremy-laptop> <20100813125432.GB8945@fieldses.org> Reply-To: Jeremy Allison Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Jeremy Allison , Jeff Layton , Neil Brown , utz lehmann , Linus Torvalds , Volker.Lendecke-3ekOc4rQMZmzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org, David Howells , Jan Engelhardt , linux-cifs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, samba-technical-w/Ol4Ecudpl8XjKLYN78aQ@public.gmane.org, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org, linux-fsde-kxMDh+IBDuj1P9xLtpHBDw@public.gmane.org To: "J. Bruce Fields" Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100813125432.GB8945-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> Sender: linux-nfs-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org List-Id: linux-cifs.vger.kernel.org On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:54:32AM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 06:05:01AM -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote: > > We don't need to ape Windows in everything. > > The coming ACL disaster will show that (we will go from an ACL > > model that is slightly too complex to use, to one that is impossibly > > complex to use :-). > > Care to elaborate? POSIX ACLs -> RichACLs (NT-style). Not criticising Andreas here, people are asking for this. But Windows ACLs are a nightmare beyond human comprehension :-). In the "too complex to be usable" camp. > And what would native ACL support mean for Samba? RichACLs'll do it, but I feel sorry for the admins :-). Jeremy. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html