From: bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org (J. Bruce Fields)
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andreas Gruenbacher
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Andreas Gruenbacher
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Subject: Re: [RFC v6 03/40] vfs: Add MAY_DELETE_SELF and MAY_DELETE_CHILD permission flags
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:57:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150828215758.GD23326@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUoBnPyEGExpoDzHOCgnHh5=a1ROALmb63LLJZG+L=aQA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 02:36:15PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Andreas Gruenbacher
> <andreas.gruenbacher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Normally, deleting a file requires write and execute access to the parent
> > directory. With Richacls, a process with MAY_DELETE_SELF access to a file
> > may delete the file even without write access to the parent directory.
> >
> > To support that, pass the MAY_DELETE_CHILD mask flag to inode_permission()
> > when checking for delete access inside a directory, and MAY_DELETE_SELF
> > when checking for delete access to a file itelf.
> >
> > The MAY_DELETE_SELF permission does not override the sticky directory
> > check. It probably should.
>
> Silly question from the peanut gallery: is there any such thing as
> opening an fd pointing at a file such that the "open file description"
> (i.e. the struct file) captures the right to delete the file?
>
> IOW do we need FMODE_DELETE_SELF?
I guess FMODE_READ and _WRITE make sense because we pass file
descriptors to read() and write(). But we don't have a way to pass a
file descriptor to an operation that deletes a file.
(I think Windows may be different in both respects, it might be
interesting to compare, but I really don't understand how it works...).
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-28 21:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-04 11:52 [RFC v6 00/40] Richacls Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:52 ` [RFC v6 01/40] vfs: Add IS_ACL() and IS_RICHACL() tests Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <1438689218-6921-2-git-send-email-agruenba-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28 20:34 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 02/40] vfs: Add MAY_CREATE_FILE and MAY_CREATE_DIR permission flags Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <1438689218-6921-3-git-send-email-agruenba-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02 18:53 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20150902185300.GA3319-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02 19:06 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-09-02 19:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20150902192008.GB3319-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02 20:23 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 03/40] vfs: Add MAY_DELETE_SELF and MAY_DELETE_CHILD " Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-28 20:44 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20150828204413.GB23326-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28 21:08 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <1438689218-6921-4-git-send-email-agruenba-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28 21:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrUoBnPyEGExpoDzHOCgnHh5=a1ROALmb63LLJZG+L=aQA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28 21:54 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2015-08-29 1:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-28 21:57 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 04/40] vfs: Make the inode passed to inode_change_ok non-const Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 05/40] vfs: Add permission flags for setting file attributes Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 06/40] richacl: In-memory representation and helper functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 09/40] richacl: Update the file masks in chmod() Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <1438689218-6921-10-git-send-email-agruenba-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-01 21:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20150901213816.GH10468-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02 6:08 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 10/40] richacl: Permission check algorithm Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <1438689218-6921-11-git-send-email-agruenba-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28 21:49 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-08-28 22:06 ` Andreas Grünbacher
[not found] ` <CAHpGcMJT0kQyrvCkur0csCmRn-LwUOJcRWqAfLaqCpNd2b8UXA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31 15:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 11/40] vfs: Cache base_acl objects in inodes Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 12/40] vfs: Cache richacl in struct inode Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 13/40] richacl: Check if an acl is equivalent to a file mode Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 14/40] richacl: Create-time inheritance Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 15/40] richacl: Automatic Inheritance Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 16/40] richacl: xattr mapping functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 17/40] vfs: Add richacl permission checking Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 19/40] ext4: Add richacl feature flag Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 20/40] richacl: acl editing helper functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 21/40] richacl: Move everyone@ aces down the acl Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 22/40] richacl: Propagate everyone@ permissions to other aces Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 24/40] richacl: Set the other permissions to the other mask Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 25/40] richacl: Isolate the owner and group classes Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 26/40] richacl: Apply the file masks to a richacl Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 27/40] richacl: Create richacl from mode values Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 28/40] nfsd: Keep list of acls to dispose of in compoundargs Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 29/40] nfsd: Use richacls as internal acl representation Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 31/40] nfsd: Add support for the v4.1 dacl attribute Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 32/40] nfsd: Add support for the MAY_CREATE_{FILE,DIR} permissions Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 33/40] richacl: Add support for unmapped identifiers Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <1438689218-6921-1-git-send-email-agruenba-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 07/40] richacl: Permission mapping functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 08/40] richacl: Compute maximum file masks from an acl Andreas Gruenbacher
[not found] ` <1438689218-6921-9-git-send-email-agruenba-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02 19:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20150902195408.GC3319-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02 19:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-09-02 20:38 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 18/40] ext4: Add richacl support Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 23/40] richacl: Set the owner permissions to the owner mask Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 30/40] nfsd: Add richacl support Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 34/40] ext4: Don't allow unmapped identifiers in richacls Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 39/40] nfs: Add richacl support Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 40/40] nfs: Add support for the v4.1 dacl attribute Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 35/40] sunrpc: Allow to demand-allocate pages to encode into Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 36/40] sunrpc: Add xdr_init_encode_pages Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 37/40] nfs: Fix GETATTR bitmap verification Andreas Gruenbacher
2015-08-04 11:53 ` [RFC v6 38/40] nfs: Remove unused xdr page offsets in getacl/setacl arguments Andreas Gruenbacher
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