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From: Martin Wilck <martin.wilck-RJz4owOZxyXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
To: Andrew Bartlett <abartlet-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-cifs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-cifs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"samba-technical-w/Ol4Ecudpl8XjKLYN78aQ@public.gmane.org"
	<samba-technical-w/Ol4Ecudpl8XjKLYN78aQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Martin Wilck <mwilck-KvP5wT2u2U0@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] cifs.upcall: use kernel.provided principal name if available
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 15:13:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E68BF73.2090707@ts.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1315486914.541.14.camel@obed>

On 09/08/2011 03:01 PM, Andrew Bartlett wrote:

> Try 
> [libdefaults]
>  rdns = false
> 
> in your krb5.conf

Doesn't work, sorry. Actually, it doesn't seem to make any difference in
my setup. In my scenario, cifs.upcall would be able to infer the correct
SPN with the following algorithm:

 - get the IP address using DNS
 - get the "real" server FQDN using RDNS
 - use "cifs/<hostname portion of the "real" FQDN>" as SPN

Thus RDNS might indeed be beneficial here (but "rdns = true" makes no
difference, either).

OTOH, from the security point of view, this algorithm might not be more
secure than the server-provided SPN, because the attack scenario assumes
that DNS and/or general network packet transmission is already hijacked.

The question remains: what are the windows clients doing to overcome
this situation?

Martin

> (The default value here isn't suitable for use in an AD environment). 
> 
> Andrew Bartlett

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-08 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-06 15:21 [RFC/PATCH] cifs: add server-provided principal name in upcall Martin Wilck
     [not found] ` <1315322512-10652-1-git-send-email-martin.wilck-RJz4owOZxyXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-06 15:26   ` [RFC/PATCH] cifs.upcall: use kernel.provided principal name if available Martin Wilck
     [not found]     ` <1315322794-10725-1-git-send-email-martin.wilck-RJz4owOZxyXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-06 16:10       ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]         ` <4E673D6F.90606@ts.fujitsu.com>
2011-09-07 13:03           ` Jeff Layton
2011-09-07 21:42             ` Andrew Bartlett
2011-09-08  7:23               ` Martin Wilck
     [not found]                 ` <4E686D69.9090503-RJz4owOZxyXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-08  7:39                   ` Andrew Bartlett
2011-09-08 12:53                     ` Martin Wilck
     [not found]                       ` <4E68BACD.2020403-RJz4owOZxyXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-08 12:59                         ` simo
2011-09-08 13:01                         ` Andrew Bartlett
2011-09-08 13:13                           ` Martin Wilck [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <4E68BF73.2090707-RJz4owOZxyXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-08 13:23                               ` simo
2011-09-08 13:23                               ` Andrew Bartlett
2011-09-08 14:54                                 ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                                 ` <4E68EEAE.2090102@ts.fujitsu.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <4E68EEAE.2090102-RJz4owOZxyXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-09 13:37                                     ` Jeff Layton
2011-09-12  9:01                                       ` Martin Wilck
     [not found]                                         ` <4E6DCA86.8020707-RJz4owOZxyXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-12 13:41                                           ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                                             ` <20110912094114.4e7f2b8e-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2011-09-12 14:00                                               ` simo
2011-09-12 23:23                                           ` Andrew Bartlett
2011-09-13 11:01                                             ` Martin Wilck
2011-09-08 13:31                               ` Jeff Layton
2011-09-07 22:18       ` Steve French
2011-09-06 16:16   ` [RFC/PATCH] cifs: add server-provided principal name in upcall Jeff Layton

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