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From: Stefan Metzmacher <metze-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
To: Long Li <longli-0li6OtcxBFHby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>,
	Steve French <sfrench-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-cifs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-cifs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"samba-technical-w/Ol4Ecudpl8XjKLYN78aQ@public.gmane.org"
	<samba-technical-w/Ol4Ecudpl8XjKLYN78aQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [[PATCH v1] 02/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Add structure for SMBD transport
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:41:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61ab1564-d699-e8f2-631e-67a6c28b678b@samba.org> (raw)
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Hi Long,

>> It seems that the new transport is tied to it's caller regarding structures and
>> naming conventions.
>>
>> I think it would be better to strictly separate them, as I'd like to use the
>> SMBDirect transport also from the userspace for the client side e.g. in
>> Samba's '[lib]smbclient', but also in Samba's server side code 'smbd'.
> 
> Thank you for reviewing the patch set.
> 
> I think it is possible to separate the common code that implements the SMBDirect transport. There are some challenges to reuse the same code for both kernel and user spaces.
> 1. Kernel mode RDMA verbs are similar but different to user-mode ones.
> 2. Some RDMA features (e.g Fast Registration Work Request) are not available in user-mode.
> 3. Locking and synchronization mechanism is different
> 4. Memory management is different.
> 5. Process creation/scheduling and data sharing between processes are different, and there is no user-mode code running in interrupt/softirq.
> 
> Those needs to be abstracted through a layer, the rest of the code can be shared. I can work on this after patch set is reviewed.

I guess this is a misunderstanding...

I don't want to use that code and run it in userspace,
I have a userspace prototype more or less working here, see
https://git.samba.org/?p=metze/samba/wip.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master3-rdma
and
https://git.samba.org/?p=metze/samba/wip.git;a=blob;f=libcli/smb/smb_direct.c;h=9cc0d861ccfcbb4df9ef6ad85a7fe3d262e549c0;hb=85d46de6fdbba041d3e8004af46865a72d2b8405

I goal is that we'll have an api that allows userspace
code to use the kernel code SMBDirect code. This
userspace code would get a file descriptor from the kernel
and would be able to use it similar to a tcp socket.
If the kernel would simulate the 4 byte length header,
it's trivial to get to a stage were smbclient and smbd
are able to support SMBDirect without much changes.
We only need to replace connect(), listen(), accept() and a few more
by SMBDirect versions.

For the real data transfer we might be able to use memfd_create()
or something similar to share the buffers between userspace and kernel.

I guess this is a long way, but having the basic SMBDirect code in
dependently in the kernel would help a lot.

>> Would it be possible to isolate this in
>> smb_direct.c and smb_direct.h while using
>> smb_direct_* prefixes for structures and functions? Also avoiding the usage
>> of other headers from fs/cifs/*.h, expect for something generic like nterr.h.
> 
> Sure I will make naming changes and clean up the header files.

Thanks!

>> I guess 'struct cifs_rdma_info' would then be 'struct smb_direct_connection'.
>> And it won't have a reference to struct TCP_Server_Info.
> 
> I will look for ways to remove reference to struct TCP_Server_Info . The reason why it has a reference to TCP_Server_Info is that: TCP_Server_Info represents a transport connection, although it also has many other TCP related code. SMBD needs to get to this connection TCP_Server_Info and set the transport status on shutdown (and maybe other situations).
> 

Wouldn't it be better to provide a way to ask for the connection state
and let the caller ask for the state instead of changing the callers
structure?

metze


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-14 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-02 20:10 [[PATCH v1] 00/37] Implement SMBD protocol: Series 1 Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 01/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Add parsing for new rdma mount option Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-2-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 19:10     ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]       ` <CY4PR21MB01823BD35679AE110E9008B8A08C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 22:53         ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 02/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Add structure for SMBD transport Long Li
2017-08-08  6:58   ` Stefan Metzmacher
     [not found]     ` <9632c208-d6a5-2c47-b583-274d046d97bd-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-12  8:32       ` Long Li
     [not found]         ` <MWHPR21MB019089DF6B0B68C5C2F4FE56CE8E0-saRRjQKJ25M/hL2NnenhuM1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-12 18:49           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-14 13:41           ` Stefan Metzmacher [this message]
     [not found]             ` <61ab1564-d699-e8f2-631e-67a6c28b678b-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 18:10               ` Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-3-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-13 10:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 03/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Add logging functions for debug Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 04/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Define per-channel SMBD transport parameters and default values Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-5-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-13 10:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-14 19:28       ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]         ` <CY4PR21MB0182A8FC1B6900BD6EBA96B0A08C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 22:57           ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 05/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Implement API for upper layer to create SMBD transport and establish RDMA connection Long Li
2017-08-14 19:54   ` Tom Talpey
2017-08-30  2:35     ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 06/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Add definition and cache for SMBD response Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 08/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Define packet format for SMBD data transfer message Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-9-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-13 10:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <20170813101510.GC17287-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 10:24         ` Jeff Layton
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 09/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Add SMBD request and cache Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 10/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Introduce wait queue when sending SMBD request Long Li
     [not found] ` <1501704648-20159-1-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02 20:10   ` [[PATCH v1] 07/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Implement receive buffer for handling SMBD response Long Li
     [not found]     ` <1501704648-20159-8-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 20:09       ` Tom Talpey
2017-08-19 23:41         ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10   ` [[PATCH v1] 11/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Post a receive request Long Li
2017-08-13 10:18     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-02 20:10   ` [[PATCH v1] 18/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Implement API for upper layer to send data Long Li
     [not found]     ` <1501704648-20159-19-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 20:44       ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]         ` <CY4PR21MB01827F735F570CCAECD5AD8BA08C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-19 23:41           ` Long Li
2017-08-30  2:30           ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10   ` [[PATCH v1] 20/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Implement reassembly queue for receiving data Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10   ` [[PATCH v1] 21/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Implement API for upper layer to receive data Long Li
     [not found]     ` <1501704648-20159-22-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 20:57       ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]         ` <CY4PR21MB0182E84B76541E0EE6FCAF4EA08C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 23:24           ` Long Li
2017-08-14 23:35             ` Tom Talpey
2017-08-02 20:10   ` [[PATCH v1] 22/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Implement API for upper layer to receive data to page Long Li
2017-08-14 20:59     ` Tom Talpey
2017-08-02 20:10   ` [[PATCH v1] 30/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Add SMBDirect transport to Makefile Long Li
     [not found]     ` <1501704648-20159-31-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 21:20       ` Tom Talpey
2017-08-14 23:30         ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 12/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Handle send completion from CQ Long Li
2017-08-13 10:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-14 18:16     ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 13/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Implement SMBD protocol negotiation Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-14-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-13 10:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 14/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Post a SMBD data transfer message with page payload Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-15-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 20:23     ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]       ` <CY4PR21MB01822E48269CAD772EE1B3A1A08C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 22:58         ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 15/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Post a SMBD data transfer message with data payload Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-16-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-13 10:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-30  2:17       ` Long Li
2017-08-30  8:51         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-30 18:17           ` Long Li
2017-08-14 20:26     ` Tom Talpey
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 16/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Post a SMBD message with no payload Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-17-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-13 10:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <20170813102412.GH17287-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 18:20         ` Long Li
2017-08-14 19:00           ` Tom Talpey
2017-08-14 22:51             ` Long Li
     [not found]               ` <CY4PR21MB0182E3DB8E034407509E3205CE8C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 23:12                 ` Tom Talpey
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 17/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Track status for transport Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 19/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Manage credits on SMBD client and server Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-20-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 20:47     ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]       ` <CY4PR21MB01823211DE659BEAA7932309A08C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 23:03         ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 23/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Implement API for upper layer to reconnect transport Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-24-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 21:02     ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]       ` <CY4PR21MB0182025BB8A39FB3F7291F94A08C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 23:37         ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 24/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Support for SMBD keep alive protocol Long Li
2017-08-14 21:06   ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]     ` <CY4PR21MB0182CBEB4F76488B2FB9480FA08C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 23:27       ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 25/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Support SMBD idle connection timer Long Li
     [not found]   ` <1501704648-20159-26-git-send-email-longli-Lp/cVzEoVyZiJJESP9tAQJZ3qXmFLfmx@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 21:12     ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]       ` <CY4PR21MB018266B47622680566B48575A08C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 23:29         ` Long Li
     [not found]           ` <CY4PR21MB01829CD26D97DF63CAB08666CE8C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 23:42             ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]               ` <CY4PR21MB01829585183A42669B962B4AA08C0-kUhI0YP1syo7ifcEnHlXec1VXTxX1y3OvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-15  0:10                 ` Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 26/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Send an immediate packet when it's needed Long Li
2017-08-14 21:15   ` Tom Talpey
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 27/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Destroy transport when RDMA channel is disconnected Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 28/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Implement API for upper layer to destroy the transport Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 29/37] [CIFS] SMBD: Disconnect RDMA connection on QP errors Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 31/37] [CIFS] Add SMBD transport to SMB session context Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 32/37] [CIFS] Add SMBD debug couters to CIFS debug exports Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 33/37] [CIFS] Connect to SMBD transport when specified in mount option Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 34/37] [CIFS] Reconnect to SMBD transport when it's used Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 35/37] [CIFS] Destroy SMBD transport on exit Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 36/37] [CIFS] Read from SMBD transport when it's used Long Li
2017-08-02 20:10 ` [[PATCH v1] 37/37] [CIFS] Write to " Long Li
2017-08-13 10:27 ` [[PATCH v1] 00/37] Implement SMBD protocol: Series 1 Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <20170813102735.GI17287-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-13 10:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-14 17:04     ` Long Li

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