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From: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>
To: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
	sboyd@codeaurora.org, maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de, geert@linux-m68k.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC RFT 3/3] clk: introduce CLK_ENABLE_HAND_OFF flag
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:58:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150811185827.31346.68194@quantum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150811183317.GT18282@x1>

Quoting Lee Jones (2015-08-11 11:33:17)
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, Michael Turquette wrote:
> > I had a chat with Stephen Boyd about this yesterday and we discussed
> > taking it even further: do not explicitly enable the clock, but instead
> > simply refrain from disabling a clock that is both ON and has this flag
> > set.
> =

> Doing so will prevent clk_disable_unused() from gating it, but if we
> don't take a reference sibling clocks will be able to disable the
> parent which will be fatal.

We propagate the reference counting up the tree. My implementation is a
call to clk_core_enable which walks the parent lists and increments
reference counts, so what you describe will not happen.

I am only proposing to augment the logic slightly by checking the value
of the .is_enabled callback and making sure that this clock isn't
already gated in hardware. If it is then we won't touch it in the
framework; it's up to drivers to claim it and enable as usual.

> =

> > It sounds like that would that work for ST, yes? Are you interested in
> > using a flag (or a DT property) to enable an otherwise-gated clock, or
> > simply insuring that bootloader-enabled and reset-enabled clocks are not
> > spuriously turned off?
> =

> Clocks are ungated by the bootloader.

Thanks for the info.

> > That's great. I suspected that behavior was not necessary at all.
> > =

> > Let's zero in on the technical concerns here:
> > =

> > 1) ST's flexgen binding should not get screwed over. So we'll need a DT
> > wrapper around the flag
> =

> Great.
> =

> > 2) I would love feedback on whether you expect the flag/property to
> > enable a disabled clock or if you merely want to keep an already-enabled
> > clock from being disabled
> =

> For us, we only need the clock not to be turned off, either by
> clk_disable_unused() or by drivers using critical clock siblings, but
> as I'm striving for a generic approach, it would be hypocritical of me
> to encourage not to cover all bases with this solution.

I'm going for Minimum Viable Product here. I deeply do not want to have
a mechanism for ungating clocks from DT. Keeping ungated clocks enabled
is a different beast entirely and probably satisfies most users that
have been following development of this feature.

For example the whole big messy fuss over the DT bindings for the
simple-fb driver could have been avoided if this feature had existed
then.

Additionally, I prefer not to merge features that do not have users. ST
needs to keep already-enabled clocks from being turned off, so that's
what we'll merge.

Regards,
Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-11 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-07 19:09 [PATCH RFC RFT 0/3] clk: detect per-user enable imbalances and implement hand-off Michael Turquette
2015-08-07 19:09 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 1/3] clk: per-user clk prepare & enable ref counts Michael Turquette
2015-08-10 13:47   ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-10 19:31     ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-07 19:09 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 2/3] clk: clk_put WARNs if user has not disabled clk Michael Turquette
2015-09-30 15:38   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-20 12:40     ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-20 12:52       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21  9:50       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21 10:59         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 15:50           ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-21 16:46             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-22  9:57               ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-07 19:09 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 3/3] clk: introduce CLK_ENABLE_HAND_OFF flag Michael Turquette
2015-08-10 14:48   ` Lee Jones
2015-08-10 18:55     ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11  8:43       ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 10:02         ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 10:11           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 11:36             ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 11:41               ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 11:49                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 12:03                   ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 12:34                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 12:03                   ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 17:09             ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 18:17               ` Lee Jones
2015-08-12  7:27                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-12  7:51                   ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 17:09           ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 18:20             ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 17:09         ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 18:33           ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 18:58             ` Michael Turquette [this message]
2015-08-18 15:52               ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 16:33                 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-20 15:11                   ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 15:58   ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 16:39     ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-20 15:39       ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-10 15:36 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 0/3] clk: detect per-user enable imbalances and implement hand-off Lee Jones
2015-08-10 19:28   ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11  9:11     ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11  9:20 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 16:41   ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 17:42     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-18 15:45 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 16:43   ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-20 15:15     ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-25 21:50       ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-26  6:54         ` Lee Jones
2015-08-26  8:42           ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-26  9:09             ` Lee Jones
2015-08-26  9:37               ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-26 20:41                 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-29  3:49           ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-29  3:55         ` Maxime Ripard
2015-09-30 12:36           ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-01 19:56             ` Maxime Ripard
2015-11-24  9:48 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-12-05  0:46   ` Michael Turquette
2016-02-11 21:33     ` Michael Turquette

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