From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
To: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
sboyd@codeaurora.org, lee.jones@linaro.org,
s.hauer@pengutronix.de, geert@linux-m68k.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC RFT 3/3] clk: introduce CLK_ENABLE_HAND_OFF flag
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:39:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150820153922.GE30520@lukather> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150818163931.31346.78267@quantum>
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 09:39:31AM -0700, Michael Turquette wrote:
> > In my mind, the fact that we hand off the clock reference is a direct
> > result to the clock being critical (or whatever name we want to call
> > it). The hand off is a side effect, but the real information we want
> > to carry is that it should not be gated.
>
> I chose the "hand-off" name because I want to set an expectation to
> users of this feature. That expectation is that some day they will have
> a Linux device driver that claims and manages this "critical clock".
> Clearly this is not always the case. Many clocks using this feature will
> never have a driver that "owns" them.
>
> But I wanted to avoid any kind of "always on" or "easy hack to avoid
> writing proper driver code" naming convention that encourages bad
> behavior down the line.
>
> Also, the hand-off thing is sort of a big deal. If driver writers only
> thought of this as an "alway on" mechanism then subtle bugs might creep
> in where drivers are getting and disabling a clock that the author
> incorrectly thought would always be enabled. So I'd like the name to
> reflect that somehow.
>
> As always I am open to suggestions.
For the record, I think always-on would be just as bad, since it has
the same issue of describing the behaviour instead of describing what
the clock is.
I would think critical is better, and if you feel there's some
unexpected behaviour, we can always add some comment / documentation
for that (heresy, I know ;))
Maxime
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-07 19:09 [PATCH RFC RFT 0/3] clk: detect per-user enable imbalances and implement hand-off Michael Turquette
2015-08-07 19:09 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 1/3] clk: per-user clk prepare & enable ref counts Michael Turquette
2015-08-10 13:47 ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-10 19:31 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-07 19:09 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 2/3] clk: clk_put WARNs if user has not disabled clk Michael Turquette
2015-09-30 15:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-20 12:40 ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-20 12:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 9:50 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-21 10:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-21 15:50 ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-21 16:46 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-22 9:57 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-07 19:09 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 3/3] clk: introduce CLK_ENABLE_HAND_OFF flag Michael Turquette
2015-08-10 14:48 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-10 18:55 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 8:43 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 10:02 ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 10:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 11:36 ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 11:41 ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 11:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 12:03 ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-11 12:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 12:03 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 17:09 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 18:17 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-12 7:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-12 7:51 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 17:09 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 18:20 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 17:09 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 18:33 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 18:58 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-18 15:52 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 16:33 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-20 15:11 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 15:58 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 16:39 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-20 15:39 ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2015-08-10 15:36 ` [PATCH RFC RFT 0/3] clk: detect per-user enable imbalances and implement hand-off Lee Jones
2015-08-10 19:28 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 9:11 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-11 9:20 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 16:41 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-11 17:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-18 15:45 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-18 16:43 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-20 15:15 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-25 21:50 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-26 6:54 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-26 8:42 ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-26 9:09 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-26 9:37 ` Maxime Coquelin
2015-08-26 20:41 ` Lee Jones
2015-08-29 3:49 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-08-29 3:55 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-09-30 12:36 ` Michael Turquette
2015-10-01 19:56 ` Maxime Ripard
2015-11-24 9:48 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-12-05 0:46 ` Michael Turquette
2016-02-11 21:33 ` Michael Turquette
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