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From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
To: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Cc: Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Wei Xu <xuwei5@hisilicon.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Guodong Xu <guodong.xu@linaro.org>,
	Haojian Zhuang <haojian.zhuang@linaro.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 13:43:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170323054319.GA7716@leoy-linaro> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a028460-d598-e337-5e09-234beddca88b@arm.com>

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 05:25:50PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> 
> 
> On 22/03/17 17:09, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
> > On 22/03/17 16:17, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >> 
> >> Point taken. So we could just specify that all necessary power
> >> domains need to be on for proper functionality for this feature and
> >> that it's highly platform specific instead of mixing cpu/cluster
> >> idle details here.
> >> 
> >>> The key point is that the caveat in using this driver is that
> >>> the power management has to be considered on a platform specific
> >>> basis before it is configured; and appropriate actions may be
> >>> needed for it to work correctly. Without this then the driver
> >>> could cause more issues than it debugs. A user selecting this
> >>> _must_ be told about these issues
> >>> 
> > 
> > So given all the possible caveats, I think we :
> > 
> > 1) Shouldn't enable the driver by default at runtime even if it is 
> > built-in. 
> > 2) Should provide mechanisms to turn it on at boot (via
> > kernel commandline) or anytime later (via sysfs), which kind of puts
> > the responsibility back on the user : "You know what you are doing". 
> > 3) Shouldn't turn the driver on based on "nohlt" which the user
> > could use it for some other purposes, without explicit intention of
> > turning this driver on).
> > 4) Should document the fact that, on some
> > platforms, the user may have to disable CPUidle explicitly to get the
> > driver working. But let us not make it the default. The user with a
> > not so ideal platform could add "nohlt" and get it working.
> > 
> 
> Agreed on all points and well summarized.
> I would like to highlight (3) and (4) as it needs to be well understood.
> 
> "nohlt" has a *different* meaning already, so using that in this
> driver for something else is simple wrong as it affects the system in
> unintended ways. And yes if user (mis)uses it to get things working,
> it's fine but shouldn't be recommended way.

Understand this point.

I will try to use general way to constraint CPUIdle like other
drivers.

Thanks all for these good suggestions :)

Thanks,
Leo Yan

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-23  5:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-03  6:00 [PATCH v3 0/5] coresight: enable debug module Leo Yan
2017-03-03  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] coresight: bindings for " Leo Yan
2017-03-03  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] coresight: refactor with function of_coresight_get_cpu Leo Yan
2017-03-03  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] coresight: add support for debug module Leo Yan
     [not found]   ` <011fdac0-59bf-b539-2de3-0b59a41bc922@arm.com>
2017-03-09 17:59     ` [v3 " Leo Yan
2017-03-13 16:29       ` Mathieu Poirier
     [not found]       ` <3f27efee-3b63-81fd-eb96-73fd7e6f5e92@arm.com>
2017-03-13  8:12         ` Leo Yan
2017-03-13 16:56         ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-15 16:44           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-15 20:41             ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-17 10:13               ` Leo Yan
2017-03-17 15:50                 ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-17 16:28                   ` Leo Yan
2017-03-17 16:47                     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-20 12:30                       ` Leo Yan
2017-03-20 16:40                       ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-21  2:59                         ` Leo Yan
2017-03-21 10:16                           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-21 11:47                             ` Leo Yan
2017-03-21 15:15                               ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-21 15:39   ` [PATCH v3 " Sudeep Holla
2017-03-22 12:54     ` Mike Leach
2017-03-22 14:07       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-22 15:45         ` Mike Leach
2017-03-22 16:17           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-22 17:09             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-22 17:25               ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-23  5:43                 ` Leo Yan [this message]
2017-03-23 12:27                   ` Mike Leach
2017-03-22 16:01         ` Leo Yan
2017-03-22 16:53           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-03  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] clk: hi6220: add debug APB clock Leo Yan
2017-03-03 23:58   ` Stephen Boyd
2017-03-17 15:22     ` Leo Yan
2017-03-03  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] arm64: dts: hi6220: register debug module Leo Yan

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