From: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
To: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>
Cc: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>,
David Dai <daidavid1@codeaurora.org>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, georgi.djakov@linaro.org,
evgreen@google.com, tdas@codeaurora.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: qcom: clk-rpmh: Add IPA clock support
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 23:33:04 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181206073304.GB5232@tuxbook-pro> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <154399414865.88331.2447825064224349951@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
On Tue 04 Dec 23:15 PST 2018, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> Quoting David Dai (2018-12-04 17:14:10)
> >
> > On 12/4/2018 2:34 PM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > > Quoting Alex Elder (2018-12-04 13:41:47)
> > >> On 12/4/18 1:24 PM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > >>> Quoting David Dai (2018-12-03 19:50:13)
> > >>>> Add IPA clock support by extending the current clk rpmh driver to support
> > >>>> clocks that are managed by a different type of RPMh resource known as
> > >>>> Bus Clock Manager(BCM).
> > >>> Yes, but why? Does the IPA driver need to set clk rates and that somehow
> > >>> doesn't work as a bandwidth request?
> > >> The IPA core clock is a *clock*, not a bus. Representing it as if
> > >> it were a bus, abusing the interconnect interface--pretending a bandwidth
> > >> request is really a clock rate request--is kind of kludgy. I think Bjorn
> > >> and David (and maybe Georgi? I don't know) decided a long time ago that
> > >> exposing this as a clock is the right way to do it. I agree with that.
> > >>
> > > But then we translate that clock rate into a bandwidth request to the
> > > BCM hardware? Seems really weird because it's doing the opposite of what
> > > you say is abusive. What does the IPA driver plan to do with this clk?
> > > Calculate a frequency by knowing that it really boils down to some
> > > bandwidth that then gets converted back into some clock frequency? Do we
> > > have the user somewhere that can be pointed to?
> > The clock rate is translated into a unitless threshold value sent as
> > part of the rpmh msg
> > that BCM takes to select a performance. In this case, the unit
> > conversion is based on
> > the unit value read from the aux data which is in Khz. I understand that
> > this wasn't
> > explicitly mentioned anywhere and I'll improve on that next patch.
>
> How is this different from bus bandwidth requests? In those cases the
> bandwidth is calculated in bits per second or something like that, and
> written to the hardware so it can convert that bandwidth into kHz and
> set a bus clk frequency in the clock controller? So in the IPA case
> we've skipped the bps to kHz conversion step and gone straight to the
> clk frequency setting part? Is a BCM able to aggregate units of
> bandwidth or kHz depending on how it's configured and this BCM is
> configured for kHz?
>
My objection to the use of msm_bus vs clock framework is not related to
how the actual interface of configuring the hardware looks like. It's
simply a matter of how this is represented in software, between some
provider and the IPA driver.
The IPA driver wants the IPA block to tick at 75MHz and I do not think
it's appropriate to achieve that by requesting a path between IPA Core
and IPA Core of 75000000 Kbytes/s.
Regards,
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-06 7:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-04 3:50 [RFC PATCH] Add IPA clock support for clk-rpmh David Dai
2018-12-04 3:50 ` [RFC PATCH] clk: qcom: clk-rpmh: Add IPA clock support David Dai
2018-12-04 19:24 ` Stephen Boyd
2018-12-04 21:41 ` Alex Elder
2018-12-04 22:34 ` Stephen Boyd
2018-12-05 1:14 ` David Dai
2018-12-05 7:15 ` Stephen Boyd
2018-12-06 1:24 ` David Dai
2018-12-06 18:02 ` Stephen Boyd
2018-12-06 7:33 ` Bjorn Andersson [this message]
2018-12-05 2:01 ` David Dai
2018-12-04 19:24 ` [RFC PATCH] Add IPA clock support for clk-rpmh Stephen Boyd
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