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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
To: Tomasz Figa <tomasz.figa@gmail.com>
Cc: Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	"open list:COMMON CLK FRAMEWORK" <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chanwoo Choi <cw00.choi@samsung.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Mike Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"moderated list:SAMSUNG SOC CLOCK DRIVERS" 
	<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] clk: samsung: Prevent potential endless loop in the PLL set_rate ops
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:46:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200811164628.GA7958@kozik-lap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+Ln22FdFBPU5f0agknRN5xnUtJWOuGARfnsYh3ru_xdjoGC=A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 06:41:20PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> 2020年8月11日(火) 18:34 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 06:28:18PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > > 2020年8月11日(火) 18:24 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 02:59:07PM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> > > > > Hi Sylwester,
> > > > >
> > > > > 2020年8月11日(火) 13:25 Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the .set_rate callback for some PLLs there is a loop polling state
> > > > > > of the PLL lock bit and it may become an endless loop when something
> > > > > > goes wrong with the PLL. For some PLLs there is already (a duplicated)
> > > > > > code for polling with timeout. This patch replaces that code with
> > > > > > the readl_relaxed_poll_timeout_atomic() macro and moves it to a common
> > > > > > helper function, which is then used for all the PLLs. The downside
> > > > > > of switching to the common macro is that we drop the cpu_relax() call.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tbh. I'm not sure what effect was exactly expected from cpu_relax() in
> > > > > the functions which already had timeout handling. Could someone shed
> > > > > some light on this?
> > > >
> > > > For us, it should not matter much, except:
> > > > 1. when on A9 with ARM_ERRATA_754327, but we do not enable it on our
> > > >    platforms,
> > > > 2. it is a generic pattern for busy loops.
> > > >
> > > > On other architectures it could mean something (e.g. yield to other
> > > > hyper-threading CPU).
> > >
> > > Okay, thanks for confirming that it doesn't matter for us.
> > >
> > > Now, I wonder if the readx_poll_*() helpers are supposed to take all
> > > of those into account or on systems which would benefit from such
> > > operations, it would be the caller's responsibility.
> >
> > That's a very good point. In case of ARM_ERRATA_754327, busy waiting
> > should have a barrier thus cpu_relax() is desired. I guess the generic
> > macro for busy waiting therefore should use them.
> 
> Is there yet another macro available somewhere or you mean
> read_poll_timeout_atomic()? The latter doesn't include cpu_relax().

Yes, I meant the generic read_poll_timeout_atomic().

> Given that udelay() likely already does this kind of an idle call,
> perhaps it could be as simple as this?
> 
>         if (__delay_us) \
>                 udelay(__delay_us); \
> +       else \
> +               cpu_relax(); \
> 

I think udelay does not have it. Delaying by some simple operations
(e.g. multiplication) does not require IO barriers.

> On the other hand, I wonder if there are cases where a call to
> cpu_relax() is not desirable.

Hmmm, it is really a generic pattern all over the kernel, so I doubt
that generic macros should target such case.

Best regards,
Krzysztof


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-11 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2020-08-11 11:25 ` [PATCH v2] clk: samsung: Prevent potential endless loop in the PLL set_rate ops Sylwester Nawrocki
2020-08-11 12:59   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-08-11 16:23     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-08-11 16:28       ` Tomasz Figa
2020-08-11 16:34         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2020-08-11 16:41           ` Tomasz Figa
2020-08-11 16:46             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2020-08-11 16:45     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2020-08-11 16:53       ` Tomasz Figa
2020-08-11 17:26         ` Sylwester Nawrocki

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