From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org>
To: Peng Fan <peng.fan@oss.nxp.com>
Cc: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Cristian Marussi <cristian.marussi@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, arm-scmi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] clk: scmi: Add support for two #clock-cells to pass rate rounding mode
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 19:51:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260422-satisfied-rough-mongrel-aabca1@sudeepholla> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aejUd6L1AfbsflxR@shlinux89>
On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 10:00:23PM +0800, Peng Fan wrote:
> Hi Sudeep,
>
> Thanks for giving a look.
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 02:14:56PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> >On Fri, Mar 06, 2026 at 02:20:13PM +0800, Peng Fan (OSS) wrote:
> >> From: Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>
> >>
> >> SCMI CLOCK_RATE_SET allows the caller to specify the rounding behaviour
> >> when setting a clock rate. The previously added dt-bindings header
> >> defines three modes:
> >>
> >> ROUND_DOWN / ROUND_UP / ROUND_AUTO
> >>
> >> To enable device tree clients to select a rounding mode, extend the
> >> SCMI clock provider to support "#clock-cells = <2>", where the second
> >> cell encodes the desired rounding mode. The default remains
> >> ROUND_DOWN for backwards compatibility with existing device trees.
> >>
> >
> >Where is the binding update documented ? It's not in 1/2.
>
> This was missed in this patchset, I will fix in new version, if this
> patchset does not have big design flaw.
>
> >
> >Also if it can be static in the device tree, why can't it be
> >autonomously handled in the platform firmware ? I think I know the
>
> Linux passes ROUND_DOWN, SCMI firmware uses round down for clk calculation.
>
> >answer for this but I want to make sure it is a valid use-case and
> >gets documented here as part of binding updates.
>
> Per info from our video software team.
> We have some video modes where the best pixel clock rate is slightly above the
> nominal rate, and the default round down rule (CLOCK_ROUND_RULE_CEILING in SM
> firmware) can cause the resulting clock rate to be much lower than expected.
>
> disp1pix = 96200000 Hz (desired pixel clock rate)
>
> The MIPI DPHY cannot hit the exact frequency of 288600000 Hz needed for this
> pixel clock rate, so the next best DPHY PLL frequency is 289000000 Hz. This
> corresponds to a pixel clock frequency of 96333333 Hz, which is slightly higher
> than the nominal rate of 96200000 Hz the video mode specifies.
>
> Setting the VIDEOPLL (disp1pix parent) to 289000000 Hz should divide down to
> the adjusted disp1pix frequency of 96333333 Hz, but here is what happens in the
> SM firmware:
>
> quotient = 289000000 / (96200000 + 1) = 3.004 => 3 (notice that the SM always
> receives the nominal clock rate, not the adjusted rate)
>
> If the rounding rule is round down (CLOCK_ROUND_RULE_CEILING),
> quotient = quotient + 1. Therefore, quotient becomes 4.
>
> disp1pix = 289000000 / 4 = 72250000, which is nowhere close to the target of
> 96333333.
>
I do not think this is the correct interpretation of `CLOCK_ROUND_DOWN/UP`.
`CLOCK_ROUND_DOWN/UP` should apply to the requested `disp1pix` rate itself,
not to the divider choice in a way that forces selection of the next integer
divisor and produces a much lower output clock.
Here, the requested `disp1pix` is `96,200,000 Hz`, and the parent rate is
`289,000,000 Hz`. The achievable child rates nearby are:
`289,000,000 / 3 = 96,333,333 Hz`
`289,000,000 / 4 = 72,250,000 Hz`
Given those options, the firmware should be able to round the request
autonomously to the nearest supported `disp1pix` rate, which is `96,333,333
Hz` (`289,000,000 / 3`).
Under that interpretation:
`CLOCK_ROUND_UP` would permit choosing `96,333,333`
`CLOCK_ROUND_AUTO` would also likely choose `96,333,333`
Choosing `/4` and ending up at `72,250,000` does not look like a meaningful
rounding of `96,200,000`
So the issue appears to be that the firmware is applying the rounding rule to
divider selection rather than to the resulting `disp1pix` frequency.
> However, if we can use `ROUND_AUTO` the SM firmware would select a quotient of 3
> in this case, and `disp1pix` would match our target: `289000000 / 3 = 96333333`.
Given the explanation above, I would not support this approach. `ROUND_AUTO`
should be sufficient for this case if the firmware is making a sensible
selection.
--
Regards,
Sudeep
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-22 18:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-06 6:20 [PATCH RFC 0/2] clk: scmi: DT support for SCMI clock rate rounding modes (per‑clock policy) Peng Fan (OSS)
2026-03-06 6:20 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] dt-bindings: clock: Add SCMI clock rounding mode declarations Peng Fan (OSS)
2026-03-06 6:20 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] clk: scmi: Add support for two #clock-cells to pass rate rounding mode Peng Fan (OSS)
2026-04-22 13:14 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-22 14:00 ` Peng Fan
2026-04-22 18:51 ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2026-04-04 1:53 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] clk: scmi: DT support for SCMI clock rate rounding modes (per‑clock policy) Peng Fan
2026-04-06 15:38 ` Brian Masney
2026-04-08 13:58 ` Peng Fan
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