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From: Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
To: Brian Masney <bmasney@redhat.com>
Cc: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] clk: add clk_hw_recalc_rate() to trigger HW clk rate recalculation
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 23:17:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69b9d2ed.df0a0220.126423.ca41@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <abnRID0SfnQlRw-e@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 06:09:36PM -0400, Brian Masney wrote:
> Hi Christian,
> 
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 06:32:45PM +0100, Christian Marangi wrote:
> > There is currently a latent problem with HW clk that only expose a
> > .recalc_rate OP and doesn't have a .set_rate() and also have the
> > CLK_GET_RATE_NOCACHE flag set. In such case the rate in clk core is
> > parsed only (and set) only at init and when the full clk_set_rate()
> > is called. In every other case .recalc_rate() is never called.
> 
> As you pointed out below, it's also called for the full clk_get_rate().
>

Yes but normally clk_get_rate is used from the consumer while producer use
clk_hw_get_rate() and this is where the problem happens.

> > 
> > It's also possible that an HW clk of this type, initially report 0 as rate
> > as the register are still not configured and the HW clk effectively doesn't
> > return any rate.
> > 
> > This gets especially problematic when a clock provider use such clk as a
> > parent and require the rate for parent selection for the final rate
> > calculation.
> > 
> > In such case, since the HW clk rate is never updated after init, it's still
> > 0 and cause problems with any other HW clk that use .determine_rate() or
> > .round_rate() and search for the closest rate using clk_hw_get_rate() on
> > the parents.
> > 
> > This doesn't happen if the full clk_get_rate() is used instead as it will
> > check if CLK_GET_RATE_NOCACHE is set and recalculate the rate accordingly.
> > 
> > Updating the clk_hw_get_rate() to align to what clk_get_rate() does is not
> > possible as it should be lockless and might cause problems in any user of
> > clk_hw_get_rate().
> > 
> > A more safe approach is the introduction of a direct function that triggers
> > the HW clk rate recalculation, clk_hw_recalc_rate().
> > 
> > Any driver that implement an HW clk that entirely depends on some register
> > to configure the rate (that are externally configured) and have only
> > .recalc_rate() and set CLK_GET_RATE_NOCACHE (aka the case where the HW clk
> > rate actually change and depends on the external register configuration)
> > will have to call clk_hw_recalc_rate() on the HW clk after changing the
> > register configuration to sync the CCF with the new rate for the HW clk.
> > 
> > Example:
> > 
> >  - All register zero -> HW clk rate = 0
> >  - PCS configure USXGMII mode -> HW clk rate = 0
> >  - PCS call clk_hw_recalc_rate() -> HW clk rate = 312MHz
> >  - Port goes UP
> >  - PCS/MAC scale the PHY port clock correctly by having
> >    the correct reference clock as parent (instead of 0)
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/clk/clk.c            | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  include/linux/clk-provider.h |  1 +
> >  2 files changed, 24 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/clk/clk.c b/drivers/clk/clk.c
> > index 47093cda9df3..35e0cf627c24 100644
> > --- a/drivers/clk/clk.c
> > +++ b/drivers/clk/clk.c
> > @@ -1977,6 +1977,29 @@ static unsigned long clk_core_get_rate_recalc(struct clk_core *core)
> >  	return clk_core_get_rate_nolock(core);
> >  }
> >  
> > +/**
> > + * clk_hw_recalc_rate - trigger rate recalculation for clk_hw
> > + * @hw: clk_hw associated with the clk to recalculate for
> > + *
> > + * Use clk_hw_recalc_rate() for the hw clk where the rate
> > + * entirely depend on register configuration and doesn't have
> > + * a .set_rate() OP. In such case, after modifying the register
> > + * that would change the rate for the hw clk, call
> > + * clk_hw_recalc_rate() to sync the CCF with the new clk rate.
> > + */
> > +void clk_hw_recalc_rate(const struct clk_hw *hw)
> > +{
> > +	struct clk_core *core = hw->core;
> > +
> > +	if (!core || !(core->flags & CLK_GET_RATE_NOCACHE))
> > +		return;
> > +
> > +	clk_prepare_lock();
> > +	__clk_recalc_rates(core, false, 0);
> > +	clk_prepare_unlock();
> > +}
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(clk_hw_recalc_rate);
> 
> There's no user of this new function. You need to also include a user
> so that we can see the complete picture of how this will be used.
> 
> If it helps to demonstrate the problem, you can also add to the clk
> kunit tests in drivers/clk/clk_test.c.
> 

Yes I know a user is needed but the user will be a PCS driver and it might
take a while for it to get proposed. If I implement a repro in clk_test is
there a chance to implement this without an user?

-- 
	Ansuel

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-17 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-17 17:32 [PATCH] clk: add clk_hw_recalc_rate() to trigger HW clk rate recalculation Christian Marangi
2026-03-17 22:09 ` Brian Masney
2026-03-17 22:17   ` Christian Marangi [this message]
2026-03-17 22:23     ` Brian Masney

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