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From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@redhat.com>
Cc: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,  Abel Vesa <abelvesa@kernel.org>,
	 Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
	 Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	 Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	 Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	 Ying Liu <victor.liu@nxp.com>,  Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>,
	 Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,  imx@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	 Abel Vesa <abel.vesa@linaro.org>,
	Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>,
	 Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>,
	 Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	 Ian Ray <ian.ray@ge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] clk: Add flag to prevent frequency changes when walking subtrees
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 16:40:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878qri8yol.fsf@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250106-fabulous-tapir-of-acceptance-c4e3e7@houat> (Maxime Ripard's message of "Mon, 6 Jan 2025 15:36:33 +0100")

Hi Maxime,

>> The exclusive rate code could support this if it doesn't already do so.
>> If you call clk_set_rate_exclusive(child, <constant rate>) followed by
>> clk_set_rate(parent, <new rate>) the core code should try to keep the
>> child at the constant rate, or fail the clk_set_rate() call on the
>> parent. It should be possible to confirm this with some KUnit tests for
>> clk_set_rate_exclusive(). Similarly, if another child, child_B, of the
>> parent changes the parent rate, we should speculate the new rate of the
>> child_A that's protected and fail if we can't maintain the rate. We need
>> to start generating a list of clks that we operate a rate change on to
>> support this though, because right now we rely on the stack to track the
>> clks that we change the rate of.
>> 
>> Initially we thought that we could do this with clk notifiers. That may
>> work here, but I suspect it will be clunky to get working because clk
>> notifiers operate on struct clk.
>
> I think notifiers are great for customers, but not really adequate for
> the clock drivers tree. Indeed, you can only react to a (sub)tree
> configuration using notifiers, but you can't affect it to try something
> new that would be a better fit.
>
> Like, if we have a PLL A, with two child clocks that are dividers. B is
> initially (exclusively) set to freq X, and then you want to set C to 2X.
>
> The best thing to do is to set A to 2X, and double B's divider. It's
> simple enough, but we have no way to try to negociate that at the
> moment.

Indeed. Do you have something in mind to address this situation (eg. a
new clk provider or core API)?

Thanks,
Miquèl

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-10 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-21 17:41 [PATCH 0/5] clk: Fix simple video pipelines on i.MX8 Miquel Raynal
2024-11-21 17:41 ` [PATCH 1/5] clk: imx: clk-imx8mp: Allow LDB serializer clock reconfigure parent rate Miquel Raynal
2024-11-21 17:41 ` [PATCH 2/5] clk: Add a helper to determine a clock rate Miquel Raynal
2024-11-21 17:41 ` [PATCH 3/5] clk: Split clk_calc_subtree() Miquel Raynal
2024-11-21 17:41 ` [PATCH 4/5] clk: Add flag to prevent frequency changes when walking subtrees Miquel Raynal
2024-12-10 22:44   ` Stephen Boyd
2024-12-23 18:38     ` Miquel Raynal
2024-12-31  1:09       ` Stephen Boyd
2024-12-17 12:47   ` Maxime Ripard
2024-12-23 18:43     ` Miquel Raynal
2024-12-31  1:22       ` Stephen Boyd
2025-01-06 14:36         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-01-10 15:40           ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2025-01-10 15:38         ` Miquel Raynal
2024-11-21 17:41 ` [PATCH 5/5] clk: imx: imx8mp: Prevent media clocks to be incompatibly changed Miquel Raynal
2024-11-22  6:01 ` [PATCH 0/5] clk: Fix simple video pipelines on i.MX8 Liu Ying
2024-11-22  9:54   ` Miquel Raynal
2024-11-26  6:49     ` Liu Ying
2024-11-26 11:03       ` Miquel Raynal
2024-11-27  7:24         ` Liu Ying
2024-12-17 12:54     ` Maxime Ripard
2024-12-23 18:59       ` Miquel Raynal
2025-01-06 14:45         ` Maxime Ripard

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