From: icenowy@aosc.io
To: maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com
Cc: "Jernej Škrabec" <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>,
linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com, wens@csie.org,
"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
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Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: [RFC PATCH 07/11] drm: sun4i: add support for the TV encoder in H3 SoC
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 21:00:59 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98c3572beee0a81755994b4bdc508b18@aosc.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170523125321.t7y7yfrrfokpkzgd@flea.home>
在 2017-05-23 20:53,Maxime Ripard 写道:
> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 07:55:56PM +0200, Jernej Škrabec wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Dne sobota, 20. maj 2017 ob 03:37:53 CEST je Chen-Yu Tsai napisal(a):
>> > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 2:23 AM, Jernej Škrabec <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>
>> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Dne petek, 19. maj 2017 ob 20:08:18 CEST je Icenowy Zheng napisal(a):
>> > >> 于 2017年5月20日 GMT+08:00 上午2:03:30, Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-
>> > >
>> > > electrons.com> 写到:
>> > >> >On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:43:50AM +0800, Icenowy Zheng wrote:
>> > >> >> Allwinner H3 features a TV encoder similar to the one in earlier
>> > >> >
>> > >> >SoCs,
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> but with some different points about clocks:
>> > >> >> - It has a mod clock and a bus clock.
>> > >> >> - The mod clock must be at a fixed rate to generate signal.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Why?
>> > >>
>> > >> It's experiment result by Jernej.
>> > >>
>> > >> The clock rates in BSP kernel is also specially designed
>> > >> (PLL_DE at 432MHz) in order to be able to feed the TVE.
>> > >
>> > > My experiments and search through BSP code showed that TVE seems to have
>> > > additional fixed predivider 8. So if you want to generate 27 MHz clock,
>> > > unit has to be feed with 216 MHz.
>> > >
>> > > TVE has only one PLL source PLL_DE. And since 216 MHz is a bit low for
>> > > DE2,
>> > > BSP defaults to 432 MHz for PLL_DE and use divider 2 to generate 216 MHz.
>> > > This clock is then divided by 8 internaly to get final 27 MHz.
>> > >
>> > > Please note that I don't have any hard evidence to support that, only
>> > > experimental data. However, only that explanation make sense to me.
>> > >
>> > > BTW, BSP H3/H5 TV driver supports only PAL and NTSC which both use 27 MHz
>> > > base clock. Further experiments are needed to check if there is any
>> > > possibility to have other resolutions by manipulating clocks and give
>> > > other proper settings. I plan to do that, but not in very near future.
>> >
>> > You only have composite video output, and those are the only 2 standard
>> > resolutions that make any sense.
>>
>> Right, other resolutions are for VGA.
>>
>> Anyway, I did some more digging in A10 and R40 datasheets. I think
>> that H3 TVE
>> unit is something in between. R40 TVE has a setting to select "up
>> sample".
>
> That might be just another translation of oversampling :)
>
> I didn't know it could be applied to composite signals though, but I
> guess this is just another analog signal after all.
>
>> Possible settings are 27 MHz, 54 MHz, 108 MHz and 216 MHz. BSP driver
>> on R40
>> has this setting enabled only for PAL and NTSC and it is always 216
>> MHz. I
>> think that H3 may have this hardwired to 216 MHz and this would be the
>> reason
>> why 216 MHz is needed.
>>
>> Has anyone else any better explanation?
>
> That's already a pretty good one.
>
> Either way, wether this is upsampling, oversampling or just a
> pre-divider, this can and should be dealt with in the mode_set
> callback, and not in the probe.
I got a better idea -- let TVE driver have the CLK_TVE as an
input and create a subclock output with divider 16, and feed this
subclock to TCON lcd-ch1.
This is a model of the real hardware -- the clock divider is in
TVE, not TCON.
>
> Thanks!
> Maxime
>
> --
> Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons
> Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
> http://free-electrons.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-23 13:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-17 16:43 [RFC PATCH 00/11] Support for H3 Composite Output support Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] dt-bindings: update the binding for Allwinner H3 TVE support Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-19 18:02 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-19 18:06 ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-20 2:01 ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] drm: sun4i: add support for H3 mixers Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-19 17:47 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-19 17:49 ` [linux-sunxi] " Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-19 18:00 ` Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] drm: sun4i: ignore swapped mixer<->tcon connection for DE2 Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-19 17:57 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-19 18:00 ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-24 8:14 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-04 14:19 ` icenowy
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] drm: sun4i: add support for H3's TCON0/1 Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] drm: sun4i: add compatible for H3 display engine Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] drm: sun4i: add color space correction support for DE2 mixer Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 20:14 ` [linux-sunxi] " Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] drm: sun4i: add support for the TV encoder in H3 SoC Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-19 18:03 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-19 18:08 ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-19 18:23 ` [linux-sunxi] " Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-20 1:37 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-05-22 17:55 ` Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-23 12:53 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-23 12:56 ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-23 13:00 ` icenowy [this message]
2017-05-24 7:30 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-24 8:25 ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-24 15:23 ` Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-31 18:43 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-01 14:11 ` icenowy
2017-06-02 22:21 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-04 14:29 ` icenowy
2017-06-07 7:58 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] clk: sunxi-ng: allow CLK_DE to set CLK_PLL_DE for H3 Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] clk: sunxi-ng: export " Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] ARM: sun8i: h3: add display engine pipeline for TVE Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 20:19 ` [linux-sunxi] " Jernej Škrabec
2017-05-19 18:06 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-19 18:10 ` [linux-sunxi] " Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-24 8:19 ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-24 5:24 ` [linux-sunxi] " Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-05-24 5:28 ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-24 5:34 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-05-24 5:36 ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-05-17 16:43 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] [DO NOT MERGE] ARM: sun8i: h3: enable TV output on Orange Pi PC Icenowy Zheng
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