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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Kubalewski, Arkadiusz" <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>,
	Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>,
	Vadim Fedorenko <vadfed@meta.com>,
	Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
	poros <poros@redhat.com>, mschmidt <mschmidt@redhat.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"linux-clk@vger.kernel.org" <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Olech, Milena" <milena.olech@intel.com>,
	"Michalik, Michal" <michal.michalik@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v6 2/6] dpll: Add DPLL framework base functions
Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 09:53:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFn74xJOtiXatfHQ@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230508124250.20fb1825@kernel.org>

Mon, May 08, 2023 at 09:42:50PM CEST, kuba@kernel.org wrote:
>On Mon, 8 May 2023 14:17:30 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> >> Hmm, that would kind of embed the pin type into attr which feels wrong.  
>
>An attribute which changes meaning based on a value of another attribute
>feels even more wrong.

It wouldn't change meaning, it would be still "a label". Either on a
back of a PCI card or internal pin in a board scheme. Still the same
meaning (for mux type for example).



>
>> >Looking at the above from a different angle, the
>> >DPLL_A_PIN_FRONT_PANEL_LABEL attribute will be available only for
>> >DPLL_PIN_TYPE_EXT type pins, which looks legit to me - possibly
>> >renaming DPLL_A_PIN_FRONT_PANEL_LABEL as DPLL_A_PIN_EXT_LABEL.  
>
>Yup. Even renaming EXT to something that's less.. relative :(

Suggestion?


>
>> Well sure, in case there is no "label" attr for the rest of the types.
>> Which I believe it is, for the ice implementation in this patchset.
>> Otherwise, there is no way to distinguish between the pins.
>> To have multiple attrs for label for multiple pin types does not make
>> any sense to me, that was my point.
>
>Come on, am I really this bad at explaining this?

Or perhaps I'm just slow.


>
>If we make a generic "label" attribute driver authors will pack
>everything they want to expose to the user into it, and then some.

What's difference in generic label string attr and type specific label
string attr. What is stopping driver developers to pack crap in either
of these 2. Perhaps I'm missing something. Could you draw examples?


>
>So we need attributes which will feel *obviously* *wrong* to abuse.

Sure, I get what you say and agree. I'm just trying to find out the
actual attributes :)

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-09  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-12  2:28 [PATCH RFC v6 0/6] Create common DPLL/clock configuration API Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-12  2:28 ` [PATCH RFC v6 1/6] dpll: spec: Add Netlink spec in YAML Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-14 14:44   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-16 13:15     ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-16 13:45       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-16 15:19         ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-17  0:53           ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-17 10:07             ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-17  0:52         ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-17 10:05           ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-17 14:29             ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-17 15:14             ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-17 16:20               ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-17 18:22                 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-20  8:10                   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-21  4:05       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-21  4:13         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-21  4:20           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-17 16:23   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-21  4:00     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-17 16:53   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-17 18:50     ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-12  2:28 ` [PATCH RFC v6 2/6] dpll: Add DPLL framework base functions Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-13 16:21   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-13 22:59     ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-14  9:21       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-14 17:50         ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-15  9:22           ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-16 12:31             ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-28 15:22             ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-04-01 12:49               ` Jiri Pirko
2023-04-03 18:18             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-09  7:51               ` Jiri Pirko
     [not found]                 ` <20230410153149.602c6bad@kernel.org>
2023-04-16 16:23                   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-04-17 15:53                     ` Vadim Fedorenko
     [not found]                     ` <20230417124942.4305abfa@kernel.org>
     [not found]                       ` <ZFDPaXlJainSOqmV@nanopsycho>
     [not found]                         ` <20230502083244.19543d26@kernel.org>
2023-05-03  7:56                           ` Jiri Pirko
2023-05-04  2:16                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-04 11:00                               ` Jiri Pirko
2023-05-04 11:14                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-05-04 16:04                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-04 17:51                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-05-04 18:44                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-05 10:41                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-05-05 15:35                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-07  7:58                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2023-05-08  6:50                                             ` Paolo Abeni
2023-05-08 12:17                                               ` Jiri Pirko
2023-05-08 19:42                                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-09  7:53                                                   ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2023-05-09 14:52                                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-09 15:21                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-05-09 17:53                                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-10  6:17                                                           ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-14 16:43       ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-15 12:14         ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-14  9:30   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-14 15:45   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-14 18:35     ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-15 14:43       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-15 15:29   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-16 12:20   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-16 12:37   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-16 13:53   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-16 16:16   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-17 16:21   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-20 10:24   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-21 13:34   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-23 11:18   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-24  9:29   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-12  2:28 ` [PATCH RFC v6 3/6] dpll: documentation on DPLL subsystem interface Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-14 16:14   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-04-03 10:21     ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-16 13:46   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-04-03 10:23     ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-03-12  2:28 ` [PATCH RFC v6 4/6] ice: add admin commands to access cgu configuration Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-12  2:28 ` [PATCH RFC v6 5/6] ice: implement dpll interface to control cgu Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-12  2:28 ` [PATCH RFC v6 6/6] ptp_ocp: implement DPLL ops Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-14 10:05   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-15  0:10     ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-15 12:24       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-31 23:28         ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-04-01 12:53           ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-15 15:34   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-15 15:52     ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-16 12:12   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-13 12:20 ` [PATCH RFC v6 0/6] Create common DPLL/clock configuration API Jiri Pirko
2023-03-13 15:33   ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-13 16:22     ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-13 16:31       ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-17 16:10     ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-18  5:01       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-23 11:21 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-23 18:00   ` Vadim Fedorenko
2023-03-26 17:00 ` [patch dpll-rfc 0/7] dpll: initial patchset extension by mlx5 implementation Jiri Pirko
2023-03-26 17:00   ` [patch dpll-rfc 1/7] dpll: make ops function args const Jiri Pirko
2023-03-26 17:00   ` [patch dpll-rfc 2/7] dpll: allow to call device register multiple times Jiri Pirko
2023-03-26 17:00   ` [patch dpll-rfc 3/7] dpll: introduce a helper to get first dpll ref and use it Jiri Pirko
2023-03-26 17:00   ` [patch dpll-rfc 4/7] dpll: allow to call pin register multiple times Jiri Pirko
2023-03-26 17:00   ` [patch dpll-rfc 5/7] dpll: export dpll_pin_notify() Jiri Pirko
2023-03-26 17:00   ` [patch dpll-rfc 6/7] netdev: expose DPLL pin handle for netdevice Jiri Pirko
2023-03-26 17:00   ` [patch dpll-rfc 7/7] mlx5: Implement SyncE support using DPLL infrastructure Jiri Pirko
2023-03-28 16:36   ` [patch dpll-rfc 0/7] dpll: initial patchset extension by mlx5 implementation Vadim Fedorenko
2023-04-01 12:54     ` Jiri Pirko

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