From: Stephan Gerhold <stephan.gerhold@linaro.org>
To: Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>
Cc: Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org,
Georgi Djakov <djakov@kernel.org>,
Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] dt-bindings: mailbox: qcom,apcs: Add separate node for clock-controller
Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 14:16:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aCNGSwL7043GoJBz@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vszdea2djl43oojvw3vlrip23f7cfyxkyn6jw3wc2f7yowht5@bgsc2pqscujc>
On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 05:48:11PM -0500, Bjorn Andersson wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 03:10:08PM +0200, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
> > APCS "global" is sort of a "miscellaneous" hardware block that combines
> > multiple registers inside the application processor subsystem. Two distinct
> > use cases are currently stuffed together in a single device tree node:
> >
> > - Mailbox: to communicate with other remoteprocs in the system.
> > - Clock: for controlling the CPU frequency.
> >
> > These two use cases have unavoidable circular dependencies: the mailbox is
> > needed as early as possible during boot to start controlling shared
> > resources like clocks and power domains, while the clock controller needs
> > one of these shared clocks as its parent. Currently, there is no way to
> > distinguish these two use cases for generic mechanisms like fw_devlink.
> >
> > This is currently blocking conversion of the deprecated custom "qcom,ipc"
> > properties to the standard "mboxes", see e.g. commit d92e9ea2f0f9
> > ("arm64: dts: qcom: msm8939: revert use of APCS mbox for RPM"):
> > 1. remoteproc &rpm needs mboxes = <&apcs1_mbox 8>;
> > 2. The clock controller inside &apcs1_mbox needs
> > clocks = <&rpmcc RPM_SMD_XO_CLK_SRC>.
> > 3. &rpmcc is a child of remoteproc &rpm
> >
> > The mailbox itself does not need any clocks and should probe early to
> > unblock the rest of the boot process. The "clocks" are only needed for the
> > separate clock controller. In Linux, these are already two separate drivers
> > that can probe independently.
> >
>
> Why does this circular dependency need to be broken in the DeviceTree
> representation?
>
> As you describe, the mailbox probes and register the mailbox controller
> and it registers the clock controller. The mailbox device isn't affected
> by the clock controller failing to find rpmcc...
>
That's right, but the problem is that the probe() function of the
mailbox driver won't be called at all. The device tree *looks* like the
mailbox depends on the clock, so fw_devlink tries to defer probing until
the clock is probed (which won't ever happen, because the mailbox is
needed to make the clock available).
I'm not sure why fw_devlink doesn't detect this cycle and tries to probe
them anyway, but fact is that we need to split this up in order to avoid
warnings and have the supplies/consumers set up properly. Those device
links are created based on the device tree and not the drivers.
Thanks,
Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-13 13:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-06 13:10 [PATCH 0/4] mailbox: qcom-apcs-ipc: Avoid circular dependency with clock controller Stephan Gerhold
2025-05-06 13:10 ` [PATCH 1/4] dt-bindings: mailbox: qcom,apcs: Add separate node for clock-controller Stephan Gerhold
2025-05-11 22:48 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-05-13 13:16 ` Stephan Gerhold [this message]
2025-05-14 16:08 ` Rob Herring
2025-05-14 21:12 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-05-21 9:20 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-22 19:53 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-05-23 9:06 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-23 9:29 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-06-11 3:31 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-06-11 6:30 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-06-21 20:51 ` Stephen Boyd
2025-06-23 13:17 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-07-17 17:30 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-05-23 8:42 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-23 8:59 ` Stephan Gerhold
2025-05-23 9:07 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-06 13:10 ` [PATCH 2/4] mailbox: qcom-apcs-ipc: Assign OF node to clock controller child device Stephan Gerhold
2025-05-26 19:47 ` Jassi Brar
2025-05-28 19:21 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-05-06 13:10 ` [PATCH 3/4] clk: qcom: apcs-msm8916: Obtain clock from own OF node Stephan Gerhold
2025-05-06 13:10 ` [PATCH 4/4] clk: qcom: apcs-sdx55: " Stephan Gerhold
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